Re: compilers that self compile

2004-11-11 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 10:05:48AM -0300, Antonio S. de A. Terceiro wrote: > Joel Baker escreveu isso aí: > [cut] > > > Will this approach make manual porting unnecessary? > > > > Sadly, no, at least if I understand you correctly. Because, four months > > down the road when you've uploaded another

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-11-11 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 10:05:48AM -0300, Antonio S. de A. Terceiro wrote: > Joel Baker escreveu isso aí: > [cut] > > > Will this approach make manual porting unnecessary? > > > > Sadly, no, at least if I understand you correctly. Because, four months > > down the road when you've uploaded another

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-22 Thread Antonio S. de A. Terceiro
Joel Baker escreveu isso aí: [cut] > > Will this approach make manual porting unnecessary? > > Sadly, no, at least if I understand you correctly. Because, four months > down the road when you've uploaded another copy to the archive, that > first copy with the pre-translated source that you built w

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-22 Thread Antonio S. de A. Terceiro
Joel Baker escreveu isso aí: [cut] > > Will this approach make manual porting unnecessary? > > Sadly, no, at least if I understand you correctly. Because, four months > down the road when you've uploaded another copy to the archive, that > first copy with the pre-translated source that you built w

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-21 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:33:35PM -0300, Antonio S. de A. Terceiro wrote: > My idea is to make a first release with sources already translated > (which can be done with a precompiled binary for i386 distributed by > upstream), which would compile fine with just g++ and libxml2-dev as > build-depen

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-21 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:33:35PM -0300, Antonio S. de A. Terceiro wrote: > Joel Baker escreveu isso aí: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 03:35:14PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: > > > Re: Jeroen van Wolffelaar in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >* how packages like those go in the repository for the fi

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-21 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:33:35PM -0300, Antonio S. de A. Terceiro wrote: > My idea is to make a first release with sources already translated > (which can be done with a precompiled binary for i386 distributed by > upstream), which would compile fine with just g++ and libxml2-dev as > build-depen

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-21 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:33:35PM -0300, Antonio S. de A. Terceiro wrote: > Joel Baker escreveu isso aí: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 03:35:14PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: > > > Re: Jeroen van Wolffelaar in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >* how packages like those go in the repository for the fi

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-21 Thread Antonio S. de A. Terceiro
Joel Baker escreveu isso aí: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 03:35:14PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: > > Re: Jeroen van Wolffelaar in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >* how packages like those go in the repository for the first time? > > > > > > By ignoring build-depends while in some way you've made your

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-21 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 03:35:14PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Jeroen van Wolffelaar in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >* how packages like those go in the repository for the first time? > > > > By ignoring build-depends while in some way you've made your system to > > actually be able to buil

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-21 Thread Antonio S. de A. Terceiro
Joel Baker escreveu isso aí: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 03:35:14PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: > > Re: Jeroen van Wolffelaar in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >* how packages like those go in the repository for the first time? > > > > > > By ignoring build-depends while in some way you've made your

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-21 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 03:35:14PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Jeroen van Wolffelaar in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >* how packages like those go in the repository for the first time? > > > > By ignoring build-depends while in some way you've made your system to > > actually be able to buil

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-21 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Jeroen van Wolffelaar in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >* how packages like those go in the repository for the first time? > > By ignoring build-depends while in some way you've made your system to > actually be able to build the package. I.e., you've for example > bootstrapped the compiler. Then

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-21 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Jeroen van Wolffelaar in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >* how packages like those go in the repository for the first time? > > By ignoring build-depends while in some way you've made your system to > actually be able to build the package. I.e., you've for example > bootstrapped the compiler. Then

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-20 Thread Sven Mueller
Antonio S. de A. Terceiro [u] wrote on 20/10/2004 18:18: How do people in Debian handle compilers that depend on itself to be compiled? Good question. More precisely: * can a package build-depend on itself? I've saw that gcc, for example, don't (at least explicitily) build-depend on

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-20 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 01:18:39PM -0300, Antonio S. de A. Terceiro wrote: > Hello all, > > How do people in Debian handle compilers that depend on itself to > be compiled? I asked this question a while ago too. Quoting DWN[1]: | Cyclic Build Dependencies. Jeroen van Wolffelaar [11]noticed that

compilers that self compile

2004-10-20 Thread Antonio S. de A. Terceiro
Hello all, How do people in Debian handle compilers that depend on itself to be compiled? More precisely: * can a package build-depend on itself? I've saw that gcc, for example, don't (at least explicitily) build-depend on itself. * how packages like those go in the repository for the

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-20 Thread Sven Mueller
Antonio S. de A. Terceiro [u] wrote on 20/10/2004 18:18: How do people in Debian handle compilers that depend on itself to be compiled? Good question. More precisely: * can a package build-depend on itself? I've saw that gcc, for example, don't (at least explicitily) build-depend on itself.

Re: compilers that self compile

2004-10-20 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 01:18:39PM -0300, Antonio S. de A. Terceiro wrote: > Hello all, > > How do people in Debian handle compilers that depend on itself to > be compiled? I asked this question a while ago too. Quoting DWN[1]: | Cyclic Build Dependencies. Jeroen van Wolffelaar [11]noticed that

compilers that self compile

2004-10-20 Thread Antonio S. de A. Terceiro
Hello all, How do people in Debian handle compilers that depend on itself to be compiled? More precisely: * can a package build-depend on itself? I've saw that gcc, for example, don't (at least explicitily) build-depend on itself. * how packages like those go in the repository for the