Re: bash should not be essential

1997-11-21 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) writes: > And your suggestion of > > (cd /very/long/path; cp foo bar baz) To be safe, this should be (cd /very/long/path && cp foo bar baz) -- Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint = E8 0E 0D 04 F5 21 A0 94 53 2B 97 F5 D6 4E 39 30

Re: bash should not be essential

1997-11-21 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Santiago Vila Doncel) writes: > Yes, bash is essential because we always *need* a POSIX shell. But GNU > bash provides *two* of them: /bin/sh and /bin/bash. Only /bin/sh should > be essential. However, dangling symlinks are not terribly

Re: bash should not be essential

1997-11-21 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
Ian Jackson wrote: > Santiago Vila Doncel: > > bash is currently essential because there is no other POSIX > > shell. Point. > > No, that is not the (only) reason why bash is essential. bash is also > essential because it provides a fixed useful set of facilities for > people to write init.d scri

Re: Backspace and delete

1997-11-21 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
I agree with Ricardas Cepas. Bob > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 16:02 GMT > From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ricardas Cepas thinks that we should map <-- to ASCII BS and `Delete' > to ASCII DEL. Is there anyone else who agrees with him ? If not then > I think we can safely go with my pro

Re: Backspace and delete

1997-11-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Ricardas Cepas thinks that we should map <-- to ASCII BS and `Delete' to ASCII DEL. Is there anyone else who agrees with him ? If not then I think we can safely go with my proposal, as it has rough consensus. If there is then I need to argue with him and to convince people. Ian.

Re: proposed minimum function of /etc/init.d scripts

1997-11-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Klee points out: > I definitely agree regarding 'start|stop|restart'. However, I believe > that 'reload' should take action only if properly supported by the > system in question. When I use the 'reload' argument, it's for the > specific purpose of making the system reload it's configuration file

Re: bash should not be essential

1997-11-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Santiago Vila Doncel: > bash is currently essential because there is no other POSIX > shell. Point. No, that is not the (only) reason why bash is essential. bash is also essential because it provides a fixed useful set of facilities for people to write init.d scripts, preinst scripts, &c., - ie,

Re: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.0 (fwd)

1997-11-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Fabrizio Polacco suggests accelerating my plan for the transition to FHS (insofar as we choose to go with it). I think this is a bad idea because it will involve changing many things at once. It is better to have a plan that will be more robust at any stage and where we get the chance to fix bugs

Re: Backspace and delete (fwd)

1997-11-21 Thread Mark Baker
--- Begin Message --- In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ricardas Cepas) writes: >> Linux and other good operating systems already use DEL for backspace. > > AFAIK FreeBSD uses Del for delete and BS for backspace. > And surely this doesn't make it bad OS. The same

Re: Backspace and delete

1997-11-21 Thread Ricardas Cepas
The subject is widely covered in updated kbd.FAQ (kbd 0.95). On Thu Nov 20 13:04:00 1997 + Ian Jackson wrote: ... > Linux and other good operating systems already use DEL for backspace. ... AFAIK FreeBSD uses Del for delete and BS for backspace. And surely this doesn't make