Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles (was Re: Conffiles...)

1998-04-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 11:23:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hands) wrote on 11.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > No, I understand the difference --- we were talking about a file that gets > > created by any of a group of packages, and then gets treated as if it > > b

Re: kernel headerts and libc6

1998-04-13 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 13 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > libc6-dev (<= 2.0.7pre1-4). I suggest that the next version of > libc6-dev does not have symlinks in /usr/include (libc-kheaders shall > create directories in /usr/include), and it should depend on > libc-kheaders. APT would then deconfigure/remove

Re: General bug policy

1998-04-13 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On 11 Apr 1998, Adam P. Harris wrote: > I see four possible valid parties for closing bugs: > * party is the maintainer > * party is the submitter > * party has been given permission by the maintainer to close the bug > (i.e., the maintainer is soliciting support from another developer >

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 11:47:53AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > The XFree86 and CVS development teams maybe exception, but I > suspect that like Deity, there is a strict division of responsibility > in those teams as well. XFree86's internal structure is largely invisible, and judging

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Scott" == Scott Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Scott> deity/apt Scott> We seem to have managed well enough with the multiple Scott> maintainer model, although I must admit that I've been the only Scott> person doing releases, there isn't a particular reason why Scott> someone else on th

Re: kernel headerts and libc6

1998-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, All righty then. This needs coperation between me, the kernel-* package mantianers, and the libc6-dev maintainer. I am goint to release the updated kernel-package which shall have an extra target called libc-kheaders. make-kpkg shall be modified to accept this, and it shall

Re: Request for permission

1998-04-13 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Marcelo E. Magallón wrote: > I request permission to make the following excecutable files part > of a package: > > usr/X11R6/bin/Login.app (login.app) > usr/X11R6/bin/Mixer.app (mixer.app) > > the upstream authors use this names for the executables. The > ".app" part is the

Re: An interesting dependancy problem

1998-04-13 Thread Jens Ritter
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But libpgjava and biss-awt both suggest jdk1.1-runtime instead. I couldn't > actually find jdk1.1-runtime anywhere to see if it provides > java-virtual-machine, shouldn't it be in non-free/devel? It can be found on www.jimpick.com. They are orphaned.

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-13 Thread Scott Ellis
On 12 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"James" == James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > James> Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> 4. A unique point of communication. In case of questions WRT a > >> packages' `interface', it's much easier for other maintainers t

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-13 Thread Martin Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It is already Debian's policy that the maintainer modify the documents to be > up to date with the debian package. I could not locate this in section 5 of the policy manual, can you tell me where to find it please? Even if this is the case, I would still suggest the p

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-13 Thread fpolacco
On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 11:47:24AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think we need a symlink such as the one above, in cases where the upstream > changelog has a different name to the one we want. > > This also makes more sense than merely renaming the

Re: kernel headerts and libc6

1998-04-13 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 13 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > Ok, I give up. As Ian suggested, maybe we do need > libc-kheaders package. The upstream version could be the same as the > kernel version, and it shall be updated as libc6 development > will. This way, there shall be less linkage with the

Re: bug#17532: query of policy: what kind of bug is this?

1998-04-13 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 13 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Could all of you reading this review bug #17532? Question: what severity > should it actually be? In the bug report, you said: > this bug has prevented ALL logins (possibly including > single-user/maintaince mode;

bug#17532: query of policy: what kind of bug is this?

1998-04-13 Thread jim
Hi, Could all of you reading this review bug #17532? Question: what severity should it actually be? -Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-13 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"JJ" == JJ TROUP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > JJ> This is about a point of communication, and I've provided at least > JJ> 3 examples where communication is improved because there is not > JJ> one primary maintainer who is the point of communication. > > I thi

Re: kernel headerts and libc6

1998-04-13 Thread Christian Schwarz
[CC: to Brian since I'm not sure he's following debian-policy] On 13 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > Ok, I give up. As Ian suggested, maybe we do need > libc-kheaders package. The upstream version could be the same as the > kernel version, and it shall be updated as libc6 de

Re: Bug#13503: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-13 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Dale Scheetz wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > > > Let's forget the policy. And let's take an average Linux user, using the > > standard command shell (me using bash =)). This user uses the tab key to > > travel through the filesystem and reach the farthest (?

Re: Bug#20409: rxvt: postinst/prerm use /usr/bin/X11

1998-04-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 01.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The criteria should be: > a) Do you need a R6 version of that progeram, and you are sure no > other version shall do? then use /usr/X11R6/bin > b) Or else, use /usr/bin/X11 To me, that means the package

Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles (was Re: Conffiles...)

1998-04-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hands) wrote on 11.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hands) wrote on 10.04.98 in > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > I have one point to add to this. Handling files not mentioned > > > > in the *.list file was one way of several packa

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-13 Thread Herbert Xu
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I think we need a symlink such as the one above, in cases where the upstream > changelog has a different name to the one we want. > This also makes more sense than merely renaming the upstream changelog > because other documentation included with the pac

Re: Release file

1998-04-13 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 12 Apr 1998, Guy Maor wrote: > Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Source > > This specifies who is providing this archive. In the case of > > Debian the string will read 'Debian'. Other providers may use > > their own string > > > > Labe

Re: Release file

1998-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Guy" == Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Guy> Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Source > This specifies who is providing this archive. In the case of > Debian the string will read 'Debian'. Other providers may use > their own string > >

kernel headerts and libc6

1998-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Ok, I give up. As Ian suggested, maybe we do need libc-kheaders package. The upstream version could be the same as the kernel version, and it shall be updated as libc6 development will. This way, there shall be less linkage with the kernel-* packages. I am tired of answeri

Re: Release file

1998-04-13 Thread Guy Maor
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Source > This specifies who is providing this archive. In the case of > Debian the string will read 'Debian'. Other providers may use > their own string > > Label > This carries the encompassing name o

Re: An interesting dependancy problem

1998-04-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 02:03:50PM -0400, Brian White wrote: > It is policy that package that depend on non-free packages must go into > contrib. However, what if a package depends on a virtual package that > is only provided by packages outside of "main"? > > This came up in Bug#16652 where "jav

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-13 Thread Martin Mitchell
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Would adding a > > ln -s ChangeLog.gz /usr/doc/xyzzy/changelog.gz > > to your rules file as David Engel suggested be acceptable? It complies > > with the letter of policy and doesn't force you to change the upstream > > documentation. > > While thi

Re: [Marcus.Brinkmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de: Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates]

1998-04-13 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 03:36:54PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > That said, I would like to have an announcement and lintian check for > > the right names of README.{d,D}ebian.gz, {c,C}hange{l,L}og.{,{d,D}ebian.}gz. > > And then lets fix the 50%

Re: changelog vs ChangeLog and policy dictates

1998-04-13 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, [iso-8859-1] Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > Let's forget the policy. And let's take an average Linux user, using the > standard command shell (me using bash =)). This user uses the tab key to > travel through the filesystem and reach the farthest (?) files. This user > (who seem

Request for permission

1998-04-13 Thread Marcelo E . Magallón
I request permission to make the following excecutable files part of a package: usr/X11R6/bin/Login.app (login.app) usr/X11R6/bin/Mixer.app (mixer.app) the upstream authors use this names for the executables. The ".app" part is there because that's the NeXT way of naming programs. The upper case