Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Martin Schulze
Enrique Zanardi wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 1998 at 03:50:25AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > > * Developer controlled automatic archive maintenance (eg removal of packages > > automatically after GPG signed email with list of packages to delete) > > That is a very interesting goal. Have you asked

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Jul 11, 1998 at 03:50:25AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * GPG as standard signature for packages > * Bugs mentioned in changelog closed automatically upon package installation > * Developer controlled automatic archive maintenance (eg removal of

Re: EDITOR vs. VISUAL

1998-07-10 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Yann Dirson wrote: > Hm, does anyone knows what is VISUAL exactly intendend for ? I'm > thinking of some setting like `EDITOR=ed' and `VISUAL=vi'. If it's > really what was meant for a use of VISUAL, I'd say it's not needed any > more ... Checking man pages and doc files f

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 10, Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* GPG as standard signature for packages I don't know if it will be ready. Every new release I still find new bugs (and I haven't started using it for everiday things). >* Autocompilation support What do we still have to do to support that?

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread James Troup
"Jules Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> * Developer controlled automatic archive maintenance (eg removal of > >> packages automatically after GPG signed email with list of > >> packages to delete) > > > > I think this idea, as presented here, is very bad. Even with sanity > > checks an

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Rob Browning
The Gecko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are the even partially possible or are these desirable goals not to be > attempted? My impression from recent conversations was that we were leaning in the direction of not having our goals coupled to releases anymore. We would have goals that we were work

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Jules Bean
--On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 10:13 pm +0200 "James Troup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> That's all that comes to mind right now, any other suggestions? > > That we release slink before 2038 or so? These goals (the desirable > ones, that is) aren't viab

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread The Gecko
On 10-Jul-98 James Troup wrote: > That we release slink before 2038 or so? These goals (the desirable > ones, that is) aren't viable if we want slink to not be the disaster > hamm is. Are the even partially possible or are these desirable goals not to be attempted? ---

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread James Troup
Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Not to speak for him but, I take this to mean auto creation of debs > from a central repository. An idea that has been kicked around for > a while. With new machines coming RSN we should be able to have one > for every arch supported. Well don't worry, while

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Shaleh
> > * Autocompilation support > > Eh? That sounds suspiciously like meaningless buzz-word talk. What's > ``autocompilation support'' please? Not to speak for him but, I take this to mean auto creation of debs from a central repository. An idea that has been kicked around for a while. With new

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread James Troup
Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Developer controlled automatic archive maintenance (eg removal of > packages automatically after GPG signed email with list of > packages to delete) I think this idea, as presented here, is very bad. Even with sanity checks and more thought, I'

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Shaleh
Guy this is not a slam to you or any of the people who help you. That said, one of the biggest problems I see facing Debian today and in the future is that our list of packages grows daily. A ftp maintainer or group of them is a needed thing, but I also feel that either the developers need to hav

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
> That is a very interesting goal. Have you asked Guy Maor about how doable > is it? Some tasks will have to be done by-hand, as currently (installing > new packages, or any package that goes to frozen or stable), but a lot of > bugs filed against ftp.debian.org would be closed faster if we could >

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Sat, Jul 11, 1998 at 03:50:25AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > * Developer controlled automatic archive maintenance (eg removal of packages > automatically after GPG signed email with list of packages to delete) That is a very interesting goal. Have you asked Guy Maor about how doable is it?

Re: Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Martin Mitchell
Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Maybe some will think it's not yet time to discuss this, but I think > we need a central repository for ideas of what the release goals for > slink will be. > > The following list is only built from what I remember to have read at > some point, so it will

Re: EDITOR vs. VISUAL

1998-07-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Yann Dirson wrote: > Hm, does anyone knows what is VISUAL exactly intendend for ? I'm > thinking of some setting like `EDITOR=ed' and `VISUAL=vi'. If it's > really what was meant for a use of VISUAL, I'd say it's not needed any > more ... It's for when you actually have a good termina

Re: EDITOR vs. VISUAL

1998-07-10 Thread Yann Dirson
Steve Greenland writes: > Unix(tm) programs that need to launch editor often check for > two environment variables: VISUAL and EDITOR. The algorithm is > typically > > if (VISUAL is set) > use $VISUAL > else if (EDITOR is set) > use $EDITOR > els

Chosing release goals for slink

1998-07-10 Thread Yann Dirson
Maybe some will think it's not yet time to discuss this, but I think we need a central repository for ideas of what the release goals for slink will be. The following list is only built from what I remember to have read at some point, so it will need surely some additions. I also add some items