Re: FWD: Bug#22007: [PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual

1998-10-30 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I would agree, if this were extended to all the maintainers of > the policy packages (does not seem fair to single out just me from > the team). The current list of maintainers, who all have write > access to the CVS repository, are: > > 1. Michael Alan D

Bug#15946: PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved

1998-10-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
James Troup wrote: >Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Maintainers are encouraged to preserve the modification times of >> the upstream source files in a package, to the extent possible. > >This is pedantry, but is "to the extent possible" really the best >possible wo

Bug#15946: PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved

1998-10-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi >>"James" == James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Maintainers are encouraged to preserve the modification times of >> the upstream source files in a package, to the extent possible. James> This is pedantry, but is "to the extent pos

Bug#17620: PROPOSED] Package build process must be non-interactive

1998-10-30 Thread David Frey
On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 02:14:06AM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Currently, the packaging manual only says that the `build' target of > debian/rules has to be non-interactive. Since an interactive > debian/rules script makes it impossible to autocompile that package > and also ma

Bug#15946: PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved

1998-10-30 Thread David Frey
On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 02:05:14AM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > This has been already presented to the list and had been accepted, but > Christian did not have time to actually edit the file. Seconded. David

Bug#14701: PROPOSED] bashism in Packaging Manual

1998-10-30 Thread David Frey
On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 01:58:12AM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >dpkg-shlibdeps debian/tmp/usr/{bin,sbin}/* .. > The last line should be changed to: > dpkg-shlibdeps debian/tmp/usr/bin/* debian/tmp/usr/sbin/* > to eliminate the bashism Seconded. David

Re: [RFC] Exim as standard Debian MTA?

1998-10-30 Thread David Frey
On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 10:29:10PM +0100, Philipp Frauenfelder wrote: >I found that all I needed was covered by the install script >except the uucp setup. I had the read a lot of docs the figure >out how it is done: in the docs, the uucp setup is treated as a >trivial example and those are sprea

Bug#15946: PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved

1998-10-30 Thread James Troup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Maintainers are encouraged to preserve the modification times of > the upstream source files in a package, to the extent possible. This is pedantry, but is "to the extent possible" really the best possible wording? It doesn't sound right to me in

Bug#15946: PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved

1998-10-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> Could you please clarify exactly what text you want to add to the Ian> policy manual ? == Time Stamps Maintainers are encouraged to preserve the modification times o

Bug#28747: GPL moved to /usr/share/common-licenses

1998-10-30 Thread Santiago Vila
Package: debian-policy Version: after slink release Severity: wishlist In base-files, I have recently moved the four licenses in /usr/doc/copyright/* to /usr/share/common-licenses, creating compatibility symlinks at the same time (i.e. from old to new locations). Since these files are mentioned

Re: FWD: Bug#22007: [PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual

1998-10-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> I think this verges on the ridiculous. Could we agree to let at Joey> least one person (if Manoj is going to do the bulk of the work Joey> on the policy manual for now, let it be him), be allowed to Joey> make small spelling and typo

Bug#17620: PROPOSED] Package build process must be non-inte

1998-10-30 Thread Shaleh
> Currently, the packaging manual only says that the `build' target of > debian/rules has to be non-interactive. Since an interactive > debian/rules script makes it impossible to autocompile that package > and also makes it hard for other people to reproduce the same binary >

Bug#14701: PROPOSED] bashism in Packaging Manual

1998-10-30 Thread Shaleh
> The last line should be changed to: > dpkg-shlibdeps debian/tmp/usr/bin/* debian/tmp/usr/sbin/* > to eliminate the bashism > > I am now looking for seconds for this proposal. Seconded.

Bug#15946: PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved

1998-10-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Bug#15946: [PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved"): ... > 1. time stamps should be preserved > -- > > This has been already presented to the list and had been accepted, but > Christian did not have time to actually edit the

Re: Proposal: remove the Sysadmin manual referece

1998-10-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
Guy Hulbert wrote: >On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote: >OE> The development version is available at http://www.debian.org/~elphick/d >dp/manu >OE> als.html/system-administrator/index.html > >Nope. Try: > >http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/system-administrato

Re: FWD: Bug#22007: [PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual

1998-10-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Joey Hess writes ("FWD: Bug#22007: [PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual"): > Following this email is about 60 lines of text to make a small change to the > policy manual - s/ina/in a/. > > I think this verges on the ridiculous. Could we agree to let at least one > person (if Manoj is goi

Re: Proposal: remove the Sysadmin manual referece

1998-10-30 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote: OE> -- Forwarded message -- OE> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:00:28 + OE> From: Oliver Elphick OE> To: Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OE> Cc: debian-policy@lists.debian.org OE> Subject: Re: Proposal: remove the Sysadmin manual referece OE> R

Re: FWD: Bug#22007: [PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual

1998-10-30 Thread Michael Bramer
On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 01:13:30AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Following this email is about 60 lines of text to make a small change to the > policy manual - s/ina/in a/. > > I think this verges on the ridiculous. Could we agree to let at least one > person (if Manoj is going to do the bulk of the w

Bug#17621: PROPOSED]: About versions based on dates

1998-10-30 Thread James Troup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Native Debian packages (i.e., packages which have been written > especially for Debian) whose version numbers include dates should > always use the `-MM-DD' format. That's a stunningly bad idea. From Chapter 5 of the Packaging ma

Bug#17621: PROPOSED]: About versions based on dates

1998-10-30 Thread Santiago Vila
On 30 Oct 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Native Debian packages (i.e., packages which have been written > especially for Debian) whose version numbers include dates should > always use the `-MM-DD' format. James Troup pointed out some time ago that this probably breaks another

Bug#17620: PROPOSED] Package build process must be non-interactive

1998-10-30 Thread Martin Mitchell
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. Package build process must be non-interactive > > > This has been already presented to the list and had been accepted, but > Christian did not have time to actually edit the file. > >

Bug#17621: PROPOSED]: About versions based on dates

1998-10-30 Thread Martin Mitchell
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2.1. Change > --- > > In general, Debian packages should use the same version numbers as the > upstream sources. > > However, in some cases where the upstream version number is based on a > date (e.g., a development `sna

Bug#22007: PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual

1998-10-30 Thread Martin Mitchell
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. Fixing of typo in packaging manual > -- > > This has been already presented to the list and had been accepted, but > Christian did not have time to actually edit the file. > > At the bottom, it says

Bug#15946: PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved

1998-10-30 Thread Martin Mitchell
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. time stamps should be preserved > -- > > This has been already presented to the list and had been accepted, but > Christian did not have time to actually edit the file. > > Most of our packages `tou

Bug#14701: PROPOSED] bashism in Packaging Manual

1998-10-30 Thread Martin Mitchell
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. Bashism > -- > > The Debian Packaging Manual says: > > 12.2.4.1 If your package doesn't provide a shared library > >Put a call to dpkg-shlibs into your debian/rules file. If your package >contains only binaries (e.g. no sc

Bug#22007: PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual

1998-10-30 Thread Michael Bramer
On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 02:08:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > [PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual > -- > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > $Revision: 1.1 $

Bug#22007: PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual

1998-10-30 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 02:08:11AM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > [PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual > At the bottom, it says "ina" instead of "in a". Seconded. Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out

Bug#17620: PROPOSED] Package build process must be non-interactive

1998-10-30 Thread Michael Bramer
On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 02:14:06AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > [PROPOSED] Package build process must be non-interactive > > > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >

Bug#15946: PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved

1998-10-30 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 02:05:14AM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > [PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved > According to a recent discussion on debian-policy on this subject we > consider this topic as `nice-to-have', but without priority. > Maintainers are enco

Bug#14701: PROPOSED] bashism in Packaging Manual

1998-10-30 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Oct 30, 1998 at 01:58:12AM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > [PROPOSED] bashism in Packaging Manual Seconded. Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND

Bug#15946: second

1998-10-30 Thread Joey Hess
I second all of these proposals. Namely: Bug#15946: [PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved Bug#22007: [PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual Bug#17620: [PROPOSED] Package build process mus

Bug#14701: PROPOSED] bashism in Packaging Manual

1998-10-30 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > The last line should be changed to: > dpkg-shlibdeps debian/tmp/usr/bin/* debian/tmp/usr/sbin/* > to eliminate the bashism > > I am now looking for seconds for this proposal. Seconded. (Though I think it's silly to have to go through this rig

FWD: Bug#22007: [PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual

1998-10-30 Thread Joey Hess
Following this email is about 60 lines of text to make a small change to the policy manual - s/ina/in a/. I think this verges on the ridiculous. Could we agree to let at least one person (if Manoj is going to do the bulk of the work on the policy manual for now, let it be him), be allowed to make

Re: Bug#17621: [PROPOSED]: About versions based on dates

1998-10-30 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > In general, Debian packages should use the same version numbers as the > upstream sources. > > However, in some cases where the upstream version number is based on a > date (e.g., a development `snapshot' release) dpkg cannot handle these > versi

Processed: Proposing changes for the packagingn manual

1998-10-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > retitle 14701 [PROPOSED] Fix bashism in Packaging Manual Bug#14701: dpkg: bashism in Packaging Manual Changed bug title. > retitle 15946 [PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved Bug#15946: dpkg: packaging manual: time stamps should be preserved Chang

Bug#22007: [PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual

1998-10-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
[PROPOSED] Fixing of typo in packaging manual -- Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> $Revision: 1.1 $ Copyright Notice Copyright © 1998 by Manoj Srivasta

Bug#17621: [PROPOSED]: About versions based on dates

1998-10-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
[PROPOSED]: About versions based on dates - Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> $Revision: 1.2 $ Copyright Notice Copyright © 1998 by Manoj Srivastav

Bug#17620: [PROPOSED] Package build process must be non-interactive

1998-10-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
[PROPOSED] Package build process must be non-interactive Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> $Revision: 1.1 $ Copyright Notice Copyright © 1998 by M

Bug#15946: [PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved

1998-10-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
[PROPOSED] time stamps should be preserved -- Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> $Revision: 1.1 $ Copyright Notice Copyright © 1998 by Manoj Srivastava.

Bug#14701: [PROPOSED] bashism in Packaging Manual

1998-10-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
[PROPOSED] bashism in Packaging Manual -- Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> $Revision: 1.3 $ Copyright Notice Copyright © 1998 by Manoj Srivastava.

Re: A new version of Policy is being released.

1998-10-30 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Well, congratulations to the first birth of the new standards process! :) Ben -- Brought to you by the letters Q and G and the number 19. "He's kissing Christian.. and it's making you die." -- that dog. Debian GNU/Linux -- where do you want to go tomorrow? http://www.debian.org/ I'm on FurryMUC

Re: FHS - transition

1998-10-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 22, 1998 at 07:40:15PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > > The main point are: `Do things in a way that old programs would still > work.' You can't know what weird setup a user is trying to use, perhaps he > has a custom CGI script to read manpages, one no debian-developer knows of.

Re: Proposal: remove the Sysadmin manual referece

1998-10-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
Shaleh wrote: >The policy manual has long had (at least 1.5 years) a reference or three to >the >Sysadmin Manual -- it does not exist nor does it seem to be appearing soon. >Why is it still there? Counter-Proposal: Lets get it written! The development version is available at http:/

A new version of Policy is being released.

1998-10-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:16:52 -0600 Source: debian-policy Binary: debian-policy Architecture: source all Version: 2.5.0.0 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description: debian-policy - Debian Poli

Proposal: remove the Sysadmin manual referece

1998-10-30 Thread Shaleh
The policy manual has long had (at least 1.5 years) a reference or three to the Sysadmin Manual -- it does not exist nor does it seem to be appearing soon. Why is it still there?