Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 11:30:55PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > > Different issue. The GPL appears to claim that you must distribute > > > a copy of the license with the binaries, even when you ship the source > > > separately. > > WITH or WITHIN? > Actually, the preposition used in section 1 o

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001205 20:37]: > > Fortunately, things aren't very severe right now. And, certainly, > > I think that if we could pull a solution together by the time that > > Woody freezes, that would indicate good faith. > > It migh

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Seth Arnold
* Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001205 20:37]: > Fortunately, things aren't very severe right now. And, certainly, > I think that if we could pull a solution together by the time that > Woody freezes, that would indicate good faith. It might not hurt to wait for RMS to get back to us wrt what

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Raul Miller wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 12:49:52PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > > Doesn't the fact that we are totally geared towards a target > > > > system that is Debian matter? > > On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Raul Miller wrote: > > > Actually, it does make a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 12:49:52PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > Doesn't the fact that we are totally geared towards a target > > > system that is Debian matter? On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Raul Miller wrote: > > Actually, it does make a difference -- we're not in violation of the > > GPL for an

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Seth Arnold
* Thomas Bushnell, BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001205 19:05]: > Oh, I agree it's not likely. But surely there are Theo wannabies > (horror) who do have the time. I'm still in training. >:-> -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all really impressed down here, I can tel

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread John Galt
On 5 Dec 2000, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Okay, "you". No sweat off my nose if you wish to exclude me. > > Well, I ask because again your motives for posting are unclear. > > For all I know, you're Theo de Raadt, and you're deliberately trying > t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Thomas Bushnell, BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001205 18:49]: > > For all I know, you're Theo de Raadt, and you're deliberately trying > > to drive a wedge between the FSF and Debian out of hatred for > > everything GPL and everything that is not OpenBSD. >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Seth Arnold
* Thomas Bushnell, BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001205 18:49]: > For all I know, you're Theo de Raadt, and you're deliberately trying > to drive a wedge between the FSF and Debian out of hatred for > everything GPL and everything that is not OpenBSD. Naw, if you think Theo has that kind of time (or

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Okay, "you". No sweat off my nose if you wish to exclude me. Well, I ask because again your motives for posting are unclear. For all I know, you're Theo de Raadt, and you're deliberately trying to drive a wedge between the FSF and Debian out of hatred for

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread ferret
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, John Galt wrote: > On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Raul Miller wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 12:49:52PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > Doesn't the fact that we are totally geared towards a target > > > system that is Debian matter? > > > > Actually, it does make a diffe

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread John Galt
Okay, "you". No sweat off my nose if you wish to exclude me. On 5 Dec 2000, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Can we really expect others to follow the DFSG when we do so > > only when convenient? > > "we"? > -- Pardon me, but you have obviously mi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can we really expect others to follow the DFSG when we do so > only when convenient? "we"?

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Raul Miller wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 12:49:52PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Doesn't the fact that we are totally geared towards a target > > system that is Debian matter? > > Actually, it does make a difference -- we're not in violation of the > GPL for any

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Helge Hafting
>However, Debian is in a different position, and the problem is that >people can and do pull .debs off the Debian site and install them on >other distros. The license really does require that we give them a >copy of the GPL, and that's a reasonable requirement. I believe this is doable without fo

Bug#78822: "theshared" is misspelled in upgrading-checklist.text

2000-12-05 Thread Kevin Dalley
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.2.1.0 Severity: normal I noticed another typo in upgrading-checklist.text. "theshared" should be spelled as "the shared" in the following section. Sorry for the multiple bug reports. 3.2.0.0 Packaging Manual: - Noted that newer dpkg versions do not requ

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-05 Thread Chris Waters
On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 12:15:39AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 12:24:35PM -0800, Chris Waters wrote: > > Not exactly. If I upload /bin/ls from my system to a BBS without > > providing source, I am violating the GPL. If I start distributing > > GPL'd .debs without source (