Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 06:08:43PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > At present cron parses the command simply by reading everything up > to the end of the line ('\n'), char by char (in the C type sense of > 'char'). Is there a guarantee that byte value representing '\n' won't > show up in the sequen

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Steve Greenland
Raul, thanks for clarifications. One last detail: On 01-Jun-01, 15:39 (CDT), Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For programs with no relevant text manipulation facilities (cron and > crontab), it's sufficient that UTF-8 is not mutilated. [UTF-8 is > designed, remember, to be represented in

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Raul Miller
On 30-May-01, 22:25 (CDT), Cesar Eduardo Barros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Making sure everything works with UTF-8 charset On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:38:32PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > Does this mean, for example, that cron and crontab would have to be > recoded to support wide or mult

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Steve Greenland
On 30-May-01, 22:25 (CDT), Cesar Eduardo Barros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 01:11:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:11:20PM -0300, Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote: > > > I think Debian should start to move into using UTF-8 by default > > > everywh

Bug#72335: [PROPOSAL] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules

2001-06-01 Thread Bill Allombert
I second the amended proposal. I include a sort-of template for dh_make to help implementing it. It may really save time to autobuilders, since more and more packages use complex text-processing softwares to render theirs documentations, and this often means several packages to be installed befor

Re: mandate ldconfig -X?

2001-06-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 12:35:26PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 04:19:53PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > > "Robbe" == Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Robbe> For one, it is unnecessary, and wastes time. But more > > Robbe> importantly, the

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Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:00:34PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 01, Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Most people (with the possible exception of part of the CJK > >> community) do not want to use unicode yet, deal with it. > > > >Excuse me? "With the possible exception of t

Re: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Arto Jantunen
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:07:59PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 01, Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >[*] I'd like to type naive properly, with i-diaeresis, but I just cannot, > >since it is not in ISO-8859-2 encoding my console is switched to > I'm not arguing about this. I

Re: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Roland Mas
Marco d'Itri (2001-06-01 14:00:34 +0200) : > On Jun 01, Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Excuse me? "With the possible exception of the CJK community"? What > >about people speaking (and writing/typing) Arabic, Hebrew, Greek, > >Russian and whatnot? > I don't know about Arabic and

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:56:42PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 01, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Nice things these general tendencies... in my country we still have problems > >using ISO 8859-2 because Windows 1250 has polluted everything. Adding > >another one to the pile

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 01, Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Most people (with the possible exception of part of the CJK >> community) do not want to use unicode yet, deal with it. > >Excuse me? "With the possible exception of the CJK community"? What >about people speaking (and writing/typing) Arab

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 01, Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[*] I'd like to type naive properly, with i-diaeresis, but I just cannot, >since it is not in ISO-8859-2 encoding my console is switched to I'm not arguing about this. I agree that in a perfect world everybody would be using unicode, encoded

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 01, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Nice things these general tendencies... in my country we still have problems >using ISO 8859-2 because Windows 1250 has polluted everything. Adding >another one to the pile is likely to screw things up even more. This is the reason we can't ju

Re: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:09:28PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:58:37PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: ... > > > There has to be an end to this. > > Yes, but I doubt we are going to be able to put an end to it. At least in Debian, we can try -- ---

Re: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:58:37PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > > Maintainers are being encouradged to use UTF-8, having in mind the general > > > tendency toward unified character encoding. > > > > Nice things these general tendencies... in my country we still have problems > > using ISO 885

Re: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:31:12PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:17:43PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > Maintainers are being encouradged to use UTF-8, having in mind the general > > tendency toward unified character encoding. > > Nice things these general tendencies...

Re: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:31:53AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 01, Cesar Eduardo Barros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Ask the IETF. They seem to like UTF8 a lot. > Because it's ASCII-compatible. This is not relevant. > > >Ask Linus too. The UTF8 support is in the kernel since, what, 2

Re: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:17:43PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > Maintainers are being encouradged to use UTF-8, having in mind the general > tendency toward unified character encoding. Nice things these general tendencies... in my country we still have problems using ISO 8859-2 because Windows

Re: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:30:07PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote: > > I think debconf should use UTF-8 for the templates and recode on the fly. > > Well, if you send in a patch, I will consider it. Probably libc ought to support it (when there is all the i18n stuff built in

Re: Tightening up specification of /bin/sh

2001-06-01 Thread Patrik Hagglund
Zack Weinberg wrote: > > According to POSIX they shouldn't ignore the value in the > > environment. At least ash seems to get this right: > > My reading of the XPG/4 page is that shells are allowed to honor or > ignore it as they see fit. Therefore, this is a case where my > proposal triggers. A

Re: mandate ldconfig -X?

2001-06-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 04:19:53PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > "Robbe" == Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Robbe> For one, it is unnecessary, and wastes time. But more > Robbe> importantly, the Hurd has no ld.so.cache, which kills > Robbe> reason 2 on this platform.

CVS jdg: * Add packaging manual remnants to policy document as appendices,

2001-06-01 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: jdg Fri Jun 1 02:40:17 PDT 2001 Modified files: . : perl-policy.sgml policy.sgml DebianDoc_SGML/Format: LaTeX.pm debian : changelog control Log message: * Add pack

Re: Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Roland Mas
Marco d'Itri (2001-06-01 03:31:53 +0200) : > Most people (with the possible exception of part of the CJK > community) do not want to use unicode yet, deal with it. Excuse me? "With the possible exception of the CJK community"? What about people speaking (and writing/typing) Arabic, Hebrew, Gree

debian-installer is not a valid section [in the policy]

2001-06-01 Thread Martin Quinson
Hello, I'm not a dd, so I can't do this as a formal policy change proposal, but I've noticed that a bunch of packages use the section 'debian-installer', which in not listed in the policy as a valid section (in part 2.1.7). The list of these packages is: ddetect, dhcp, udpkg, cdebconf, wget-retr

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-01 Thread Sam TH
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:31:53AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Most people (with the possible exception of part of the CJK community) > do not want to use unicode yet, deal with it. Actually, most people who aren't using a Latin or Cyrillic alphabet want Unicode. Which is most people, period.

Re: mandate ldconfig -X?

2001-06-01 Thread Brian May
> "Robbe" == Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robbe> For one, it is unnecessary, and wastes time. But more Robbe> importantly, the Hurd has no ld.so.cache, which kills Robbe> reason 2 on this platform. Debian GNU/Hurd systems also Robbe> don't have reason 1, so ther