Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Grant Bowman
* Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020506 15:47]: > >>"Grant" == Grant Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Grant> As I've argued late last year [1] Debian should take the necessary > Grant> Policy steps to move forward with LSB adoption. > > If LSB adoption means that LSB packages sh

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 05:19:07PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > Debian is more than GNU/Linux. I see no reason why Debian GNU/Hurd and > > Debian *BSD should follow the LSB. > > This is a discussion we should be having after the release on a forum > like de

Re: Bug#146023: suggested patch against policy, documenting "libexec", or current custom on use of "lib" for binaries in lib* packages

2002-05-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Junichi" == Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Junichi> I think this was discussed enough in -devel already, but Junichi> some good points about /libexec was given. I've noticed Junichi> that some known good practice is not documented in policy, Firstly, there is no such c

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Craig" == Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Craig> Should Debian scripts be following the LSB and if so, why Craig> doesn't the policy either mention the LSB or have the same Craig> standards? Why on earth should debian init scripts follow the requirements for distribution a

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Grant" == Grant Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Grant> As I've argued late last year [1] Debian should take the necessary Grant> Policy steps to move forward with LSB adoption. If LSB adoption means that LSB packages shuold be able to run on Debian, yes. Grant> Init scripts [2]

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Craig Small
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 04:49:53PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > Debian is more than GNU/Linux. I see no reason why Debian GNU/Hurd and > Debian *BSD should follow the LSB. Debian GNU/Hurd is following the > GNU standards instead of the LSB. Debian *BSD won't follow the LSB > either, I think they

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Chris Lawrence
On May 06, Craig Small wrote: > I have got bug #138251 which talks about the init.d script and how it > is missing some nices things etc. > > Should Debian scripts be following the LSB and if so, why doesn't the > policy either mention the LSB or have the same standards? FWIW, the current editi

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes: Anthony> On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 09:02:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >>"Adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adam> We(Wichert and I) implement features that users want, when we Adam> have time. We implement those that are interesting t

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 02:59:36PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Julian> People *used* to make that complaint. And if we now move to having a > Julian> lean policy standards document and a developers reference and a best > Julian> programming advice document and a dpkg documentation document

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:02:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > If the dpkg authors would like to hand off some of their design decisions > to -policy on a generalised basis, I'm sure they'd say so. It seems a bit, > well, wrong-headed for -policy to be trying to take control of dpkg though. Quit

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:34:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 10:09:11AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Part I: The Debian Archive > > 1: DFSG and the sections of the archive (free, non-free, contrib, non-us) > > > "Components" is a much bet

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 12:12:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:08:51AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > I don't care about now, I care about the next release, or the release > > after that. > > Then how about you spend a moment thinking about it from _my_ perspective

Bug#146023: suggested patch against policy, documenting "libexec", or current custom on use of "lib" for binaries in lib* packages

2002-05-06 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist I think this was discussed enough in -devel already, but some good points about /libexec was given. I've noticed that some known good practice is not documented in policy, and I propose the following patch: >diff -u policy.sgml{.orig,} --- policy.sgml.o

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Grant Bowman
* Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020506 08:25]: > Previously Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > Debian is more than GNU/Linux. I see no reason why Debian GNU/Hurd and > > Debian *BSD should follow the LSB. > > This is a discussion we should be having after the release on a forum > like debian-projec

Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-06 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 12:12:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:08:51AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > I don't care about now, I care about the next release, or the release > > after that. > > Then how about you spend a moment thinking about it from _my_ perspective

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > Debian is more than GNU/Linux. I see no reason why Debian GNU/Hurd and > Debian *BSD should follow the LSB. This is a discussion we should be having after the release on a forum like debian-project. FWIW, I think we should try to use the LSB as much as possible

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 01:16:09PM +1000, Craig Small wrote: > Hello, > I have got bug #138251 which talks about the init.d script and how it > is missing some nices things etc. > > Should Debian scripts be following the LSB and if so, why doesn't the > policy either mention the LSB or have the

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Re: The Serious severity

2002-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:08:51AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I don't care about now, I care about the next release, or the release > after that. Then how about you spend a moment thinking about it from _my_ perspective and stop whining until the next release or the release after that. Yeesh

Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Grant Bowman wrote: > As I've argued late last year [1] Debian should take the necessary > Policy steps to move forward with LSB adoption. I agree, but I would like to add we should wait until woody is released. Wichert. -- __

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 09:02:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Adam> We(Wichert and I) implement features that users want, when we > Adam> have time. We implement those that are interesting to us when > Adam> we have free time. I don't

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Re: init.d scripts and LSB

2002-05-06 Thread Grant Bowman
* Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020505 20:19]: > I have got bug #138251 which talks about the init.d script and how it > is missing some nices things etc. > > Should Debian scripts be following the LSB and if so, why doesn't the > policy either mention the LSB or have the same standards? > >