Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Clint Adams
> No one is advocating such a position. It is a hallucination of your > fevered mind. My mistake. I could have sworn that several people suggested turning a blind eye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Branden Robinson
[You guys sure do appear to love private CCs...] On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 10:59:50PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > I have nothing against policy-compliant scripts. > > But why blessing a lie in policy is the option preferred by anyone is > a mystery to me. No one is advocating such a position. It

Re: Bug#148172: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread David Schleef
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 09:39:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Clint Adams wrote: > > > Such as? > > > > test -x /usr/sbin/install-docs || echo hi > > Personally, the only such paths I ever hard code are /etc, #!/bin/sh, > and #!/usr/bin/perl, and I've been thinking about using the env trick > for

Bug#148194: debian-policy: Clarification needed regarding multi-line fields

2002-05-25 Thread John R. Daily
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.6.1 Severity: normal This was discussed on the debian-policy mailing list under the subject "Policy ambiguity regarding control files", first message 2002-05-14. Below is my initial message; note that there is a relationship between this bug and #131583, since t

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Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Adam Heath wrote: On Sat, 25 May 2002, Clint Adams wrote: the problem is there is no better replacement for 'command -v'. And we do not really need an exception -- every shell we have supports this. So the only way Well, that's not true. As Luca has pointed out, /usr/bin/which is Essentia

Re: Bug#148172: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Clint Adams wrote: > Is this important in the event that install-docs gets moved, or so that > someone can put a different install-docs in the PATH? Both. Making things more fragile is always a Bad Idea. Wichert. -- _

Re: Bug#148172: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Joey Hess
Clint Adams wrote: > > Such as? > > test -x /usr/sbin/install-docs || echo hi Personally, the only such paths I ever hard code are /etc, #!/bin/sh, and #!/usr/bin/perl, and I've been thinking about using the env trick for that last. ess hardcoded paths is good for flexability, and avoid possible

Re: Bug#148172: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Clint Adams
> That's different and more fragile: it relies on a fixed path which > command -v does not. Is this important in the event that install-docs gets moved, or so that someone can put a different install-docs in the PATH? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: Bug#148172: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Clint Adams wrote: > > Such as? > > test -x /usr/sbin/install-docs || echo hi That's different and more fragile: it relies on a fixed path which command -v does not. Wichert. -- _ /[EMAIL PROTECTED] This spac

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Clint Adams
> Does Debian explicitly support such a configuration? That's the point. > I can symlink /bin/sh to /usr/bin/tcsh or /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 if I > want, but that doesn't mean that the Debian packaging infrastructure > offers to it for me via a debconf question, update-alternatives, or some > similar

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Clint Adams wrote: > > the problem is there is no better replacement for 'command -v'. And we do > > not > > really need an exception -- every shell we have supports this. So the only > > way > > Well, that's not true. As Luca has pointed out, /usr/bin/which is > Essentia

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 07:46:07PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > > IMO, anyone who uses zsh for /bin/sh is quite insane. ;-) > > Perhaps, but it's been done. Does Debian explicitly support such a configuration? That's the point. I can symlink /bin/sh to /usr/bin/tcsh or /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 if I

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 07:46:07PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > Why we can't resolve this in a simple way is beyond me. + Gimme an F, gimme an R, gimme an E, E, Z, E. What does it spell? Michael -- "Aristotle gave you logic. Apply it." -- Branden Robinson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Clint Adams
> IMO, anyone who uses zsh for /bin/sh is quite insane. ;-) Perhaps, but it's been done. And policy in its current state fraudulently claims that it will work. Why we can't resolve this in a simple way is beyond me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 07:22:17PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > > the problem is there is no better replacement for 'command -v'. And we do > > not > > really need an exception -- every shell we have supports this. So the only > > way > > Well, that's not true. As Luca has pointed out, /usr/bi

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:19:02PM +0200, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > Change the rules for all the Debian distribution because you find that > 'command -v' is handy, seems quite excessive to me... You need to stop hitting the hooch and start thinking more about what Debian is trying to

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Clint Adams
> the problem is there is no better replacement for 'command -v'. And we do not > really need an exception -- every shell we have supports this. So the only > way Well, that's not true. As Luca has pointed out, /usr/bin/which is Essential at the moment. Also, not every shell in Debian support

Re: Bug#148172: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Clint Adams
> Such as? test -x /usr/sbin/install-docs || echo hi ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > Change the rules for all the Debian distribution because you find that > 'command -v' is handy, seems quite excessive to me... > the problem is there is no better replacement for 'command -v'. And we do not really need an exception -- every shell we have supports this. So the only way a pe

Re: Bug#148172: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Joey Hess
Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > The same goal can be achived with other commands or shell builtin. Such as? -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
Hi Branden, On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 03:28:35PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 03:42:40PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > > Below is a list of packages that may use 'command -v' in their #!/bin/sh > > postinsts. Section 11.4 of Policy states that /bin/sh can be a symlink > >

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
Package: debhelper Version: 4.0.6 Severity: serious Hi all, On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 03:28:35PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 03:42:40PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > > Below is a list of packages that may use 'command -v' in their #!/bin/sh > > postinsts. Section 11.4 of

Re: command -v in postinsts violating policy

2002-05-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 03:42:40PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > Below is a list of packages that may use 'command -v' in their #!/bin/sh > postinsts. Section 11.4 of Policy states that /bin/sh can be a symlink > to any POSIX-compatible shell, with an exception for 'echo', and that > package #!/bin/

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