CVS srivasta: Added example for why one may call ldconfig anywhere in the

2002-11-13 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaTue Nov 12 23:05:25 MST 2002 Modified files: . : policy.sgml Log message: Added example for why one may call ldconfig anywhere in the postsint.

CVS srivasta: Added example for why one may call ldconfig anywhere in the

2002-11-13 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: srivastaTue Nov 12 23:05:44 MST 2002 Modified files: debian : changelog Log message: Added example for why one may call ldconfig anywhere in the postsint.

Bug#120585: apparently what lintian does is valid, ldconfig use outside $1=configure is not documented as safe

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Herbert == Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Herbert Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... please either provide a rationale for this optional invocation, in which case the lintian warning postinst-unsafe-ldconfig stays just a warning, or remove the clause, in which case the

Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:10:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: You can decide not to log for _your_ package. I certainly am going to continue to log the compilation for mine. Branden Well, will you consider placing them in a

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, [Please followup to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a proposal under consideration for changing the undocumented(7) man page. The current proposal is included below; it is not yet the final form; and input of the general community is solicited. I have brought this

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:14:50AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: undocumented(7) man page. The current proposal is included below; it is not yet the final form; and input of the general community is Even if I really hate writing man pages, I second this proposal. I think that a lot o

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: + There should be a manual page at least for every program. If + no manual page is available, this is considered as a bug Agree. The kde people will have a very hard time... *t --

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:10:32AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:14:50AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: undocumented(7) man page. The current proposal is included below; it is not yet the final form; and input of the general community is Even if I really

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Herbert Xu
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally find the undocumented (7) man page frustrating, since I expected to see documentation, and was told there was none after a wait (yes, I had a slow machine). I would have much rather not had my hopes raised, and that man itself

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:40:21PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally find the undocumented (7) man page frustrating, since I expected to see documentation, and was told there was none after a wait (yes, I had a slow machine). I would have

Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:52:28PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: + It is not very hard to write a man page. See the url + id=http://www.schweikhardt.net/man_page_howto.html; + name=Man-Page-HOWTO, ttman(7)/tt, the examples + created by

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: + There should be a manual page at least for every program. If + no manual page is available, this is considered as a bug and + should be reported to the Debian Bug Tracking System (the + maintainer of the package is allowed

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Herbert == Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Herbert Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally find the undocumented (7) man page frustrating, since I expected to see documentation, and was told there was none after a wait (yes, I had a slow machine). I would have much

Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Colin == Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Colin The undocumented(7) page itself can continue to exist. As discussed on Colin IRC, I'm happy to hack man-db so that it can (configurably) point to Colin further information in addition to the No manual entry for foo Colin message.

Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Andrew == Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrew I don't think SGML patches are required anywhere. I also tried Andrew creating one once, and it's not worth the trouble, especially if your Andrew editor is not setup to grok SGML and how to break lines correctly. Can Andrew we make a

Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Josip == Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Again, I'm happy to leave it to a policy editor to fix the markup if desired. Josip Another reason why requiring SGML patches instead of pure content is Josip wrong... Why is it wrong? It makes things easier for policy editors, who,

CVS joy: in the footnote related to ldconfig, split paragraphs per each maintainer script, and rephrased an incoherent sentence about the postrm

2002-11-13 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: joy Wed Nov 13 09:40:10 MST 2002 Modified files: . : policy.sgml Log message: in the footnote related to ldconfig, split paragraphs per each maintainer script, and rephrased an

Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:17:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Branden == Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branden On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:10:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: You can decide not to log for _your_ package. I certainly am going to continue to log the

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:14:50AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: There is a proposal under consideration for changing the undocumented(7) man page. The current proposal is included below; it is not yet the final form; and input of the general community is solicited. I have brought

Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:48:01AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Again, I'm happy to leave it to a policy editor to fix the markup if desired. Josip Another reason why requiring SGML patches instead of pure content is Josip wrong... Why is it wrong? It makes things easier for

Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:41:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Colin == Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Colin The undocumented(7) page itself can continue to exist. As discussed on Colin IRC, I'm happy to hack man-db so that it can (configurably) point to Colin further information

Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:50:12AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I would prefer not to make that a recommendation. Those patches are accepted, of course, but I do really prefer sgml diffs. I am not about to make it a requirement, but I'd rather not recommend something that goes

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Chris Waters
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:14:50AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: There is a proposal under consideration for changing the undocumented(7) man page. The current proposal is included below; it is not yet the final form; and input of the general community is solicited. Excuse me?

Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Britton
I have some reservations about this. Along with potential false hopes during load time, the undocumented page provides pointers to places where documentation may be found. It may be irritating to people in the know, but since man is still the most widely known unix documentation interface, new

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Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Steve Greenland
On 13-Nov-02, 15:22 (CST), Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some reservations about this. Along with potential false hopes during load time, the undocumented page provides pointers to places where documentation may be found. It may be irritating to people in the know, but since man

Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 12:38, Josip Rodin wrote: The contents of the policy proposals is what matters, how it's formatted is a really minor technical detail which only distracts IMHO. I think we should encourage people to submit SGML patches, because this encourages people to do things like

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:22:58PM -0900, Britton wrote: I have some reservations about this. Along with potential false hopes during load time, the undocumented page provides pointers to places where documentation may be found. It may be irritating to people in the know, but since man is

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:22:03PM -0800, Chris Waters wrote: Now, if this were my proposal, I might allow a further three days discussion, out of respect for Manoj. I think three days is more than adequate for a three-year-old proposal. But at this point, it's Colin's proposal, and unless

Re: Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Britton == Britton Leo Kerin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Britton I have some reservations about this. Along with potential Britton false hopes during load time, the undocumented page provides Britton pointers to places where documentation may be found. It may Britton be irritating to people

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Chris Waters
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:22:58PM -0900, Britton wrote: Along with potential false hopes during load time, the undocumented page provides pointers to places where documentation may be found. An actual man page would do a better job of that. The point of this proposal is that people should

Bug#168435: debian-policy: Remove the requirement to install static libraries

2002-11-13 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 04:25:00PM +0100, Sebastian Rittau wrote: The main aspect of this proposal is the removed requirement of including static versions of each library in the corresponding -dev package. Many modern libraries don't work well as a static library and usage of static libraries

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Chris == Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:14:50AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: There is a proposal under consideration for changing the undocumented(7) man page. The current proposal is included below; it is not yet the final form; and input of the

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Chris Waters
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 01:13:24AM +, Colin Watson wrote: I've just uploaded man-db 2.4.0-11 with the additional text in the error message on an experimental basis; Cool! Go Colin! Yay! I still think that DDs who can't even be bothered to provide at least a *paragraph* worth of man page

Bug#39830: [AMENDMENT]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

2002-11-13 Thread Chris Waters
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:00:27PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Chris == Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris since the discussion period IS NOW UP, the text posted by Chris Manoj to -devel (which incorporates the minor changes) IS Chris INDEED THE FINAL FORM! Well, no,