Bug#400112: [PROPOSAL] forbid source/binary package name conflicts

2007-01-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 14/01/07 at 14:28 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:45:18 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Some source packages generate binary packages using the same name as > > another source package. For example, see the 'qd' source package, > > and the

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:51:22 -, Michael Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Jan 14, 1:10 pm, "Shaun Jackman" wrote: >> On a stable Debian system, system-wide upgrades can be far >> between. I prefer to give the user a choice of whether to use the >> update system provided by the upstream a

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:25:23 +, Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I'm not sure we'll be able to provide good security support if other > random things are downloaded. Users can always download random things. They can download sources and compile them. They can install third

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Bug#401452: Please clarify the format of the maintainer address to use in Maintainer: and Uploader:

2007-01-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 05:49:23PM +, Enrico Zini wrote: > enrico> Just when I wanted to split Maintainer fields my commas, I > stumble on Maintainer: Adam C. Powell, IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is no reason to split Maintainer fields, because they should be nothing to split. > Thi

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 07:51:22PM -, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Jan 14, 1:10 pm, "Shaun Jackman" wrote: > > On a stable Debian system, system-wide upgrades can be far between. I > > prefer to give the user a choice of whether to use the update system > > provided by the upstream author to upd

Bug#399331: marked as done (please define howto set urgency)

2007-01-14 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#400112: [PROPOSAL] forbid source/binary package name conflicts

2007-01-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:45:18 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Some source packages generate binary packages using the same name as > another source package. For example, see the 'qd' source package, > and the 'qd' binary package generated by the kfolding source package > (in

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Jan 14, 1:10 pm, "Shaun Jackman" wrote: > On a stable Debian system, system-wide upgrades can be far between. I > prefer to give the user a choice of whether to use the update system > provided by the upstream author to update the software before the next > stable release of Debian. like i said

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:19:24 -0500, Jamin W Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And if the user selected Debian for its software guidelines? Don't > you feel it's a little disingenuous for them to install an > application that is DFSG free only to have it upgrade itself to a > non-DFSG free

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Jamin W. Collins
Shaun Jackman wrote: On 1/14/07, Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 6. The upstream build may not be DFSG free. Absolutely not our concern. It is the user's choice as to which software she wishes to download and run. And if the user selected Debian for its software guidelines? Don'

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Shaun Jackman
On 1/14/07, Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Gilbert wrote: > is there a policy on whether an executable is permitted to update > itself? Not sure about The Policy, but I can see a lot of reasons why this should not be done: 1. T

Re: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 11:23 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:26:15AM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > is there a policy on whether an executable is permitted to update itself? i > > personally believe that in order to maintain the security of the system, apt > > and apt alone

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Sam Morris said: > On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:26:15 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > is there a policy on whether an executable is permitted to update itself? i > > personally believe that in order to maintain the security of the system, apt > > and apt alone should be us

Re: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070114 12:14]: > Not sure about The Policy, but I can see a lot of reasons why this > should not be done: > > 1. The md5 sums will not match anymore, so one cannot > verify the integrity of the file. > 2. The actual version of application will be d

Re: Bug#405997: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Sam Morris
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:26:15 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > is there a policy on whether an executable is permitted to update itself? i > personally believe that in order to maintain the security of the system, apt > and apt alone should be used to install software updates. recently i > submitte

Re: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Gilbert wrote: > is there a policy on whether an executable is permitted to update > itself? Not sure about The Policy, but I can see a lot of reasons why this should not be done: 1. The md5 sums will not match anymore, so one cannot ve

Re: should executables be permitted to update themselves?

2007-01-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:26:15AM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > is there a policy on whether an executable is permitted to update itself? i > personally believe that in order to maintain the security of the system, apt > and apt alone should be used to install software updates. recently i > su