Bug#620109: Policy §3.5 (on Pre-Depends) does not reflect actual practice

2011-03-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > I like your proposed alternative. Maybe the policy could say that you > "should" (in the policy sense) thoroughly analyze the consequences and > alternatives before adding pre-depends, and that one way to do so (in > a friendly advice sense) is to ask

Bug#620109: Policy §3.5 (on Pre-Depends) does not reflect actual practice

2011-03-30 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Steve Langasek wrote: > 1. get more eyeballs on the proposed change, to spot problems which the > added pre-dep may cause > > 2. inform the wider Debian developer community about the change, so they > can factor it into any plans they have for changing their *own* package > relations

Bug#620109: Policy §3.5 (on Pre-Depends) does not reflect actual practice

2011-03-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 01:51:40AM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.9.1.0 > Raphael Hertzog wrote[1]: > > It has been discussed on -release, not on -devel: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/02/threads.html#00381 > > > > (I don't think it matters mu

Bug#620109: Policy §3.5 (on Pre-Depends) does not reflect actual practice

2011-03-30 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > The reason > we request peer review of Pre-Depends is that they have a cost and should > not be abused. Okay. That's not what policy §3.5 says; it does not say Pre-Depends should or must be peer-reviewed or that one should examine all aspects when adding them but simply

Bug#620109: Policy §3.5 (on Pre-Depends) does not reflect actual practice

2011-03-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Well, I want to interpret it as meaning *something* --- though I'm not > filing RC bugs or anything. I had thought that the general rule is > that violating a policy "should" is always a bug (either in your > package or in policy), though not necessari

Bug#620109: Policy §3.5 (on Pre-Depends) does not reflect actual practice

2011-03-30 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > That's why it was discussed there. Otherwise it might well be the case > that it would have been discussed on -devel. Wait, how is that relevant at all? Is the point that the policy manual is saying what you should do in the default case, and this is a special one? The

Processed: Re: Bug#619990: developers-reference: Update of merkel.d.o URLs

2011-03-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tag 619990 pending Bug #619990 [developers-reference] developers-reference: Update of merkel.d.o URLs Added tag(s) pending. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 619990: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/b

Bug#619990: developers-reference: Update of merkel.d.o URLs

2011-03-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
tag 619990 pending thanks On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Please drop this link. It's really of no use to point people to > > britney's code (note it's not the web version of the above link...). > > Et voilà ! (attached). Thanks, applied. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Deve

Processed: limit source to developers-reference, tagging 453313, tagging 548867

2011-03-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > #developers-reference (3.4.5) UNRELEASED; urgency=low > # > # * Rework section on "sponsoring packages" and include a basic > #checklist for the sponsor. Closes: #453313 > # * Update the "Debian Developer's Duties" chapter to be more explici

Bug#619990: developers-reference: Update of merkel.d.o URLs

2011-03-30 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 07:55:39AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > If you want to see more details, you can look it up on > > -merkel:/org/&ftp-debian-org;/testing/update_out/ (or > > -in merkel:~aba/testing/update_out to see a setup with > > -a

Bug#620109: Policy §3.5 (on Pre-Depends) does not reflect actual practice

2011-03-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.9.1.0 > > Raphael Hertzog wrote[1]: > > > It has been discussed on -release, not on -devel: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/02/threads.html#00381 > > > > (I don't think it matters much given that all