Bug#681289: debian-policy: Changelog and copyright should be package metadata

2012-07-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: >Hi, > > * Raphaël Hertzog [2012-07-12 08:46:03 CEST]: > > Both the changelog and the copyright files are stored with a package's > > normal data (within data.tar in the .deb) but they are really package > > metadata (that should be part of control.t

Bug#648271: x-terminal-emulator -e policy

2012-07-12 Thread Marc Lehmann
It obviously is prudent to not exclude xterm from being a direct candidate for x-terminal-emulator, while not excluding other terminals with saner behaviour. The xterm beaviour is of course troublesome for script autors, as you always need an exception depending on the number of arguments - with t

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2012-07-12 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > user debian-pol...@packages.debian.org Setting user to debian-pol...@packages.debian.org (was r...@debian.org). > limit package debian-policy Limiting to bugs with field 'package' containing at least one of 'debian-policy' Limit currently set to '

Bug#654958: debian-policy: Document VCS fields.

2012-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder writes: > Thanks again for your help. I've applied all suggested changes. > Interdiff and updated patch attached. Looks good to me -- seconded. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@

Bug#654958: debian-policy: Document VCS fields.

2012-07-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Russ Allbery wrote: > Maybe we should instead say something like: > > ...and should be sufficient to locate the repository used for > packaging. Ideally, it also locates the branch used for development > of new Debian packages. With s/new Debian packages/new versions of the Debian pa

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main

2012-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Package: tech-ctte Severity: normal As a Debian Policy delegate, I'm delegating to the Technical Committee the resolution of bugs #587279 and #616462. The current Policy wording is: In addition, the packages in main * must not require or recommend a package outside of main for c

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between "required" and "important" priorities

2012-07-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Julien Cristau wrote: > - debconf-i18n, liblocale-gettext-perl, libtext-charwidth-perl, > libtext-iconv-perl, libtext-wrapi18n-perl: since debconf 1.5.39 -i18n > is only a Recommends. Could probably be downgraded to important? I think so. [1] has some context. > - mawk: one of the alternat

Re: Streamlining the policy process

2012-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder writes: > Question > > I'm happy to hear you have ideas for a smoother policy process. Could > you suggest a few? Maybe we can batch them up and make a general > resolution. :) I think the problems with the current process fall into roughly the following categories. D

Bug#654958: debian-policy: Document VCS fields.

2012-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder writes: > diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml > index 52dbb26a..371123e1 100644 > --- a/policy.sgml > +++ b/policy.sgml > @@ -2631,6 +2631,7 @@ Package: libc6 > Build-Depends et > al >id="f-Standards-Version">Standards-Version > (recommended) >

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2012-07-12 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > user debian-pol...@packages.debian.org Setting user to debian-pol...@packages.debian.org (was r...@debian.org). > limit package debian-policy Limiting to bugs with field 'package' containing at least one of 'debian-policy' Limit currently set to '

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between "required" and "important" priorities

2012-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder writes: > diff --git i/policy.sgml w/policy.sgml > index 52dbb26a..544308f8 100644 > --- i/policy.sgml > +++ w/policy.sgml > @@ -757,16 +757,11 @@ > > required > > - Packages which are necessary for the proper > - functioning o

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between "required" and "important" priorities

2012-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Julien Cristau writes: > As far as I can tell the following packages are Priority: required but > not Essential: yes (in sid/amd64/main), or (pre-)depended on by an > Essential package (possibly recursively): > - debconf-i18n, liblocale-gettext-perl, libtext-charwidth-perl, > libtext-iconv-per

Re: Bug#681289: debian-policy: Changelog and copyright should be package metadata

2012-07-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hello, Gerfried Fuchs (12/07/2012): > Well, that's debian-release, not debian-devel. Thanks for the pointer > though! dd@ and dr@ got most of those mails. I count 32 of them to dd@. (One can see dd@ in To on the link Thomas gave.) Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#452393: [PROPOSAL] clarify overstep between "required" and "important" priorities

2012-07-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 15:31:52 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Could someone who has the time to put together a script for this check to > see whether this is actually true? (Namely, that the only thing in > required are essential packages and their dependencies.) > As far as I can tell the follo

Re: Bug#681289: debian-policy: Changelog and copyright should be package metadata

2012-07-12 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Thomas Preud'homme [2012-07-12 17:59:19 CEST]: > Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 17:09:46, Gerfried Fuchs a écrit : > > Did I miss a thread on debian-devel about this? > > There was a thread indeed. See this one: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2012/06/msg00232.html Well, that's debian-rel

Re: Bug#681289: debian-policy: Changelog and copyright should be package metadata

2012-07-12 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 17:09:46, Gerfried Fuchs a écrit : > > Did I miss a thread on debian-devel about this? There was a thread indeed. See this one: http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2012/06/msg00232.html Best regards, Thomas Preud'homme signature.asc Description: This is a digital

Bug#681289: debian-policy: Changelog and copyright should be package metadata

2012-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphaël Hertzog writes: > We should thus modify the policy to say: > 1/ that the changelog and copyright files ought to be installed in the >DEBIAN directory along with the other control files >(this will require changes in dh_installdocs and dh_installchangelogs) > 2/ that programs th

Bug#681289: debian-policy: Changelog and copyright should be package metadata

2012-07-12 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi, * Raphaël Hertzog [2012-07-12 08:46:03 CEST]: > Both the changelog and the copyright files are stored with a package's > normal data (within data.tar in the .deb) but they are really package > metadata (that should be part of control.tar in the .deb). Are they? I consider them documenta