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On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 08:41:33PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> I wwanted to suggest putting the thing that dh_make does into
> /etc/init.d/skeleton but then I've found out dh_make does not generate an
> initscript at all. See #832764. That bug also says the dh_make skeleton
> was problematic
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 04:30:57PM +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> Hello Andrey Rahmatullin.
>
> Thanks for your input. (Did you also look at the other patches in the
> series? Any objections or support for any of them?)
I did and I thought I don't have enough confidence to say anything about
t
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 11:20:57 +0100 Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> Hello!
>
> On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 11:11:20AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> [...]
> > I don't think packages should do this, except as a way to respect
> > sysadmin configuration done in previous versions. openarena-server used
> > to
Hello Andrey Rahmatullin.
Thanks for your input. (Did you also look at the other patches in the
series? Any objections or support for any of them?)
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 07:21:00PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 03:07:21PM +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> > The dh_
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 15:07:11 +0100 Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> Here's a series of patches that focuses on trimming the init system
> ingration chapter from obsolete and/or harmful information.
> This is layed out as a series so you can pick and choose any or all
> parts. Feel free to squash the ch
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 03:07:21PM +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> The dh_make program should generate the current best practises
> version
I'm not sure about this.
And this is the first mention of dh_make in the policy except for a
footnote about writing manpages.
On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 03:0
On Sat, 2016-12-03 at 06:33 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> And to actually fix the issues, instead of merely dropping the
> mention and
> thus making the dependencies last forever because of inertia, I urge
> you to
> go all the way from "priority of rdepends MUST be raised" all the way
> to
> "prio
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Bug #835520 [debian-policy] Policy 9.3.1 is inaccurate to the point of being
harmful
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> thanks
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835520: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/
Since several releases the *-rc.d policy tools are always available
on their system. At points we've had bugs that created corner-cases
which make the *-rc.d tools go missing during an upgrade phase,
but that should not be worked around in each and every package.
Thus remove the check if invoke-rc.
The entire section is specific to sysvinit and already solved
by LSB in that case. There's no point in reinventing LSB.
Also other init systems handles this in ways that's not at all
described here. Just drop the entire section as it gives no
practical useful information.
---
policy.sgml | 196 ---
It might not be the policys place to define how the maintainer should
automate the packaging work, but atleast mention debhelper to not
fool people into thinking manually writing maintainer scripts is
the preferred method of using invoke-rc.d.
(This is similar to previous commit about update-rc.d
The dh_make program should generate the current best practises
version and for any current init system. In other word this
wording is more init agnostic (and thus hopefully future-proof).
---
policy.sgml | 5 ++---
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.
No idea how long ago this paragraph had any relevance
---
policy.sgml | 13 -
1 file changed, 13 deletions(-)
diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml
index 59cd582..f28060b 100644
--- a/policy.sgml
+++ b/policy.sgml
@@ -7780,19 +7780,6 @@ test -f program-executed-later-in-script ||
The intention is to also make sure that eg. it's equally not
allowed to directly call 'systemctl ' but maybe
the wording can be improved further to more clearly express this.
In other words the language is still a bit outdated in this paragraph.
---
policy.sgml | 4 ++--
1 file changed, 2 inserti
Get rid of "script" as that doesn't properly describe the equivalent for
systems using declarative replacements.
Also drop "the" as via update-rc.d you're potentially/likely interfacing
with multiple ones at a time. Possibly the word system should be
replaced with systems or system(s)?
---
policy
These days the information in the LSB header is used.
Manually specifying/overriding runlevels as a parameter to
update-rc.d on command line is even deprecated and a noop stub
these days.
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policy.sgml | 13 -
1 file changed, 13 deletions(-)
diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml
i
It might not be the policys place to define how the maintainer should
automate the packaging work, but atleast mention debhelper to not
fool people into thinking manually writing maintainer scripts is
the preferred method of using update-rc.d.
---
policy.sgml | 8
1 file changed, 8 insert
Todays init systems calculates a dependency graph (eg. from the
dependencies specified in LSB headers) and doesn't go by sequence
numbers. See eg. insserv.
---
policy.sgml | 9 -
1 file changed, 9 deletions(-)
diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml
index 820be8b..af2d1d2 100644
--- a/poli
Here's a series of patches that focuses on trimming the init system
ingration chapter from obsolete and/or harmful information.
This is layed out as a series so you can pick and choose any or all
parts. Feel free to squash the changes as you see fit.
This mostly focuses on bug report #835520 but a
The paragraph ends with
"...until the stable release of Debian supports /run."
which current releases does, so this paragraph is obsolete.
---
policy.sgml | 6 --
1 file changed, 6 deletions(-)
diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml
index 9cd182b..81df4a3 100644
--- a/policy.sgml
+++ b/policy
Hello!
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 11:11:20AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
[...]
> I don't think packages should do this, except as a way to respect
> sysadmin configuration done in previous versions. openarena-server used
> to do this (and be off-by-default), but for wheezy I changed the
> documented
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