Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2017-07-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 08:52:29AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: [...maintaining non-Debian-specific software as a native package...] > I certainly think it's not good practice. I think it depends on the particulars of the situation. I am upstream for two of the packages I maintain for Debian: nbd a

Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2017-07-01 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 08:52:29 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Sean Whitton writes: > > > Some people frown upon this practice, but there are more than one of us > > that do it, so probably worth mentioning in policy as a secondary use of > > native packages (possibly a footnote, due to lack of conse

Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2017-07-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Sean Whitton writes: > Native packages are also used for software that is intended for use > beyond Debian, but where the upstream maintainer also maintains the > Debian package. In such cases, the Debian revision and orig tarballs > represent needless overhead (tweaks to the packaging can use a

Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2017-07-01 Thread Sean Whitton
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 04:46:21PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > fwiw, I can't think of situations where -deb9u1 would ever be used. > Either a selected set of changes were applied to the package in stable, > which would be +debXuY, or a newer upload was backported in its > entirety, which would

Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2017-07-01 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, 2017-07-01 at 16:00 +0100, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 04:01:43PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > One rarer case is missing here: > > > > > 1.2.3-4~deb9u1 > > > Everything in 1.2.3-4 from unstable was in fact needed in Debian > > > 9, so it was simply rebuilt for Deb

Re: Broken Link in Policy HTML Page

2017-07-01 Thread Paul Hardy
Sean, On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Sean Whitton wrote: > Hello Paul, Russ, > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:16:16PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> We should probably open a bug for this since it's not entirely obvious >> what to do here. I can think of three options: >> >> * Ask debian-www to pu

Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2017-07-01 Thread Sean Whitton
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 02:08:05PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Concerns, objections, seconds? Thank you for working on this. > +A native package is software written specifically for Debian > +whose canonical distribution format is as a Debian package. > +Native packages have no separ

Bug#542288: debian-policy: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2017-07-01 Thread Sean Whitton
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 04:01:43PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > One rarer case is missing here: > > > 1.2.3-4~deb9u1 > > Everything in 1.2.3-4 from unstable was in fact needed in Debian > > 9, so it was simply rebuilt for Debian 9 and uploaded there > > (prominent examples: firefox-e

Re: Broken Link in Policy HTML Page

2017-07-01 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Paul, Russ, On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:16:16PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > We should probably open a bug for this since it's not entirely obvious > what to do here. I can think of three options: > > * Ask debian-www to publish the HTML version of that file as well. > * Change the link to