contact address for virtual package name list

1998-08-24 Thread Christian Schwarz
. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux?[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA http://www.debian.org http://fatman.mathematik.tu-m

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-05 Thread Christian Schwarz
gh, I've decided to leave Debian, that doesn't mean that I'm completely `offline' now. In case you have other problems interpreting any of my manuals/texts, feel free to drop me a note (but please do this via a CC to me, since I don't follow the lists too closel

Re: Indirect dependencies

1998-04-27 Thread Christian Schwarz
"bo" system who's perl would require libc5. Example #2: lintian depends on file. file depends on libc6. ==> Lintian physically depends on: perl (perl-base is sufficient) file objdump ... Therefore, it depends on file and binutils, but do

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-27 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > Christian Schwarz writes ("first proposal for a new maintainer policy"): > > Duties of a maintainer > > -- > > > > Being maintainer of a package means the following: (note, that in > >

Re: Exceptions to policy

1998-04-23 Thread Christian Schwarz
the policy manuals could be improved are always welcomed! Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don't know Perl? [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-21 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 21 Apr 1998, Guy Maor wrote: > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Every package in the distribution must have one or more maintainers > > at a time (see below). > > That's not currently true. Orphaned packages are not typically >

first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-20 Thread Christian Schwarz
ges of a maintainer - added requirement, that the name listed in the Maintainer field is the same on all packages of that maintainer - packages are allowed to have several maintainers at once -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don't k

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-20 Thread Christian Schwarz
scussion: It looks to me, like we are stuck. Most participants fail to see the importance of having the responsibility of our packages well defined, and I still fail to see the advantages of allowing several people to maintain one package at once. When I thought about this topic

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-19 Thread Christian Schwarz
[I reduced the list of recipients.] On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: > On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > It's up to you which guidelines you want to follow--but if you want to > > maintain packages for our distribution, you'll have to fo

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-19 Thread Christian Schwarz
e from the details below.'--section 3.3.8) while in other places no exceptions are allowed (e.g., `No package may include device files in the package file tree.'--section 3.3.6). Guy, please don't install the debian-keyring package into hamm or slink until we&#x

Re: language for changelog

1998-04-19 Thread Christian Schwarz
-English language, that original version must be included in the package as well, together with a translation into English.'' Comments or objections? Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! __

Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles (was Re: Conffiles...)

1998-04-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 17 Apr 1998, Adam P. Harris wrote: > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 12:34:18AM +0200, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > > I agree that the extra files should *not* be pu

Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles (was Re: Conffiles...)

1998-04-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 12:34:18AM +0200, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > I agree that the extra files should *not* be purged automatically. > > However, dpkg should not forget about them. > > I disagree. [snip] > > What would

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 12:22:25AM +0200, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > > The reason why I object to the `multi-maintainer' idea is my experience > > with software development: I haven't seen a _working_ example of a

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Joey Hess wrote: > Christian Schwarz wrote: > > Note, that the Linux kernel is developed by the same procedure: A lot of > > programmers contribute source code, but everything is integrated by a > > single person (Linus). The same holds for Emacs--

Re: Documentation as Software (was Re: PerlDL license)

1998-04-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
able to change bash itself, but not the manual. For licenses and standards, I think it should be allowed to copy the whole text, make changes, and release it under a different name. For example, though I can't change the text of the GPL itself, I could copy the text, create my own

Re: PROPOSAL: Extrafiles (was Re: Conffiles...)

1998-04-16 Thread Christian Schwarz
x27; where packages can register extra files through some procedure (maybe, some `dpkg-extra' command?) Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: conffiles versus configuration files

1998-04-16 Thread Christian Schwarz
y as soon as I had time to dig into this issue again and as I've prepared the necessary changes/fixes. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux?[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-16 Thread Christian Schwarz
teering! :) Just drop me a note if you want some section moved out of the policy manuals. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux?[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-f

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-16 Thread Christian Schwarz
x27;s what I think the `Maintainer:'s job is) at the same time. If someone would show me a good example for this, maybe I'd change my mind. The Lintian package has the following Maintainer field: Maintainer: Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This makes it very clear tha

lintian: questions about shared libraries

1998-04-15 Thread Christian Schwarz
root 0 libc6 Can someone tell me whether the full-path version is correct, too? (Note, that the Packaging Manual does not tell about this. I'll update the manual if necessary.) Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: Request for permission

1998-04-13 Thread Christian Schwarz
s soon as we have a consensus about the new policy. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian has a logo![EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the logo PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22

Re: kernel headerts and libc6

1998-04-13 Thread Christian Schwarz
e isn't very complicated and possible dependency problems could be easily fix in the time before the freeze. Since the current setup WRT libc6 and kernel headers is an *FAQ*, it wouldn't be very wise to put this into slink only. Brian, is this ok with you? Thanks, Chris --

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 11 Apr 1998, James Troup wrote: > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't think this is a topic which belongs to the policy > > manual. (For example, the policy manual doesn't include a statement > > like `dereferencing NULL pointer

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 11 Apr 1998, James Troup wrote: > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 4. A unique point of communication. In case of questions WRT a > > packages' `interface', it's much easier for other maintainers to > > get an `au

Re: Wht remove /usr/local dirs in prerm rather than postrm?

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
ts of unused directories in /usr/local.) Hope this answers your question, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux?[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
Manual', this could go there--but since we don't do a lot of programming ourselves, we'll probably never have such a manual. Any other opinions? Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux?[E

Re: `Every package must have exactly one maintainer'

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
hard to know what's the current status of dpkg. For example, the emacs changelog-mode is still missing in dpkg-dev, and this is known for weeks and very annoying for lots of maintainers--but noone cares about it. I even offered taking over maintainership of dpkg to

Re: Could lintian...?

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
ells me that > less than 0.1% of the filenames in my /var/lib/dpkg/*.list use any other > characters. That's another good idea for the check! I'll implement this and we'll see, how many exceptions we have... :-) Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz

PW#6-1: ldconfig calls in postinst scripts

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
[This mail is part of Debian Policy Weekly issue #6] Topic 1: ldconfig calls in postinst scripts STATE: APPROVAL REF: cf. bug #20515 Current policy states that in general, calling `ldconfig' from the postinst script is not necessary. There have been a few discussions on this topic already, wi

PW#6-2: Absolute and relative symbolic links

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
[This mail is part of Debian Policy Weekly issue #6] Topic 2: Absolute and relative symbolic links STATE: APPROVAL Current policy reads (section 3.3.5): ``Most symbolic links should be relative, not absolute. [...] In particular, symbolic links from one part of /usr to

PW#6-3: Manual pages for X11 games

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
[This mail is part of Debian Policy Weekly issue #6] Topic 3: Manual pages for X11 games STATE: APPROVAL Current policy states that X11 games have to be installed into /usr/games, instead of /usr/X11R6/bin. It is not yet specified, where manual pages of such games should be installed to. I sugg

Policy Weekly Issue #6: Table Of Contents

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
DEBIAN POLICY WEEKLY, #6 (April 11, 1998) The following message is a list of topics related to the Debian Policy which are currently under discussion or which will be discussed in the near future. This summary is sent to the debian-policy mailing list periodically by the Debian Policy Manager. A

Re: Packaging Gimp plugins?

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
st questions to debian-policy about that if there should be disagreements about certain parts of the `Debian gimp policy'. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux?[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

open policy topics

1998-04-10 Thread Christian Schwarz
(set LOCALE=C) 21. dependency policy: - do we allow/disallow indirect dependencies? - conflict loops depreciated? 22. general policy on bug report handling 23. documentation about why a package is in non-free/contrib 24. how to handle "extra" files --

Re: libtool varying versions

1998-04-05 Thread Christian Schwarz
-library > dependencies) is seriously broken. The Debian maintainer should lobby with > the upstream author to get if fixed (or, at the very least, provide options > so that Linux users can specify --no-rpath > --inter-library-dependencies-please).. I fully agree. Could the libtool

IMPORTANT: calling ldconfig in maintainer scripts

1998-04-05 Thread Christian Schwarz
has to be approved by all developers. I'd prepare a Policy Weekly posting just for this topic in the next few days. It's very important for me to hear the opinions of the "ldconfig and dpkg experts" on the above proposal and the implications to stability of hamm ASAP! Than

Re: need input: essential packages and pre-depends

1998-03-19 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > > > Recall, that there was a discussion on this topic between Feb 9 and Feb > > 18, with subject line "awk: essential virtual package?" > > > >

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-19 Thread Christian Schwarz
several maintainers start filing the same bug report simultaneously. Note, that when sending lots of bugs on the same subject, you should send the bug report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that the bug report is not forwarded to the bug distribution mailing list. --cut-here-- Do you think we need to preci

need input: essential packages and pre-depends

1998-03-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
eleased. Any (quick) comments are appreciated! Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don't know Perl? [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C

Re: new virtual package request

1998-03-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
Thank you. The rules included in the "AUTHORITATIVE LIST OF VIRTUAL PACKAGE NAMES" explicitely allows use of `private VPNs among a cooperating group of packages' which applies in this case. I think you can just use imlib without having it registered. Thanks, Chris

Re: Conclusion of the absolute/relative links issu?

1998-02-28 Thread Christian Schwarz
esign it should be easy for others to contribute new checks. Patches are always welcome! -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / \\\__/ !

Re: policy violation and bug reports. - some resolution?

1998-02-28 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 27 Feb 1998, James Troup wrote: > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > - make the program setuid in the .deb file. Additionally, put this in > > > the > > > postinst: > > > > No, games should not be `setuid', but `se

Re: policy violation and bug reports. - some resolution?

1998-02-27 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Adrian Bridgett wrote: > On Tue, Feb 24, 1998 at 10:22:51PM +0100, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > > Let me just comment on one clear question I've seen in the discussion: > > Should game's score files be tagged as conffile? I thi

Re: Clarification of Policy and Packaging manuals requested

1998-02-25 Thread Christian Schwarz
don the redundancy, I think I feel strongly on > this issue. Ok. Here you go... > >>"Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Christian> Let me just throw in a few notes: > > Christian> 2. I'm wondering why it's s

Re: policy violation and bug reports. - some resolution?

1998-02-25 Thread Christian Schwarz
'm wondering why we need to ship the /root/.bash* configuration files at all! It looks like all what they do can also be done in /etc/profile, right? Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux?[EMAIL P

Re: /etc/environment

1998-02-25 Thread Christian Schwarz
stem first. Any ideas? Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don't know Perl? [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA http://

Re: sources to both contrib & main packages

1998-02-24 Thread Christian Schwarz
th, source and binary packages. (Note, that the DFSG doesn't make a distinction between source and binary packages either.) Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Clarification of Policy and Packaging manuals requested

1998-02-24 Thread Christian Schwarz
(the .deb), but create and manage this file via the maintainer scripts (postinst, postrm, etc.). This is the suggested solution for CFGF which are modified by scripts. Comments are appreciated. If you think that some sections in the manuals should be clarified, please tell me exact sentences which you fi

Re: lintian reports & relative/absolute symlinks

1998-02-24 Thread Christian Schwarz
clarified'. I'll prepare a change for the next release of the policy manual. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux?[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-f

Re: manpage for GNU utilities?

1998-02-24 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: [Are manpages which include a statement that they are outdated any maintained a policy violation?] Thanks for all the comments so far! First of all, the discussion was not about the favourite documentation format. Debian has been doing a great job

Re: policy violation and bug reports. - some resolution?

1998-02-24 Thread Christian Schwarz
ay only be edited by humans, not by scripts. (This result will be included in the next release of the policy manual.) As score files are clearly edited by a program (i.e., the game) and not by the user/sysadmin, they must not be marked as conffiles. Thanks, Chris -- Christian

manpage for GNU utilities?

1998-02-22 Thread Christian Schwarz
welcome! Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / \\\__/ !PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA

Re: manpages for X11 games?

1998-02-22 Thread Christian Schwarz
games completely. IIRC, Daniel Quinlan (maintainer of FHS) said he would support the request to drop this directory if someone brings this issue up on the fhs-discuss mailing list. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: GNUstep and /usr/GNUstep...

1998-02-21 Thread Christian Schwarz
ful at all,' while you could try to work together with the upstream maintainers to make GNUstep installable into `FSSTND' directories (which would be necessary to allow the packages to go into the main distribution afterwards). I'm very intrested in hearing your commen

Re: manpages for X11 games?

1998-02-21 Thread Christian Schwarz
change it in our gg (great-games) :-) Having games in /usr/games only is already policy. Where to put the manpages has not been decided, yet. If you want, you can move this discussion to debian-devel, but usually debian-policy is the right place for such topics. Thanks, Chris --

Re: manpages for X11 games?

1998-02-20 Thread Christian Schwarz
an [...] Since, by current policy, all games (even X11 ones) go into /usr/games, manual pages should also go into /usr/man. (At least, if the consensus should be the contrary, we should fix /etc/manpath.config ;-) Any more opinions on this? Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schw

Last open topics of the new upload procedure

1998-02-20 Thread Christian Schwarz
ported bugs. In addition, it will avoid the `buggy' upload mails sent to debian-changes instead of debian-devel-changes and, last but not least, we'll get rid of all spam on the debian-*-changes lists!! So it would be nice if we could hear some final comments on the

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-18 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 18 Feb 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > >>"Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Christian> On 18 Feb 1998, James Troup wrote: > > Christian> [extremly essential vs. essential] > > Christian>

Re: decision on the `du' control files

1998-02-18 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Joey Hess wrote: > Christian Schwarz wrote: > > The last days, there was an `endless' discussion on debian-policy about > > the use of `du' control files. Though, the discussion has not yet ended, I > > think we have a consensus on the statemen

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-18 Thread Christian Schwarz
sential. This list should also contain information about whether a package is `extremly essential' or just `essential.' What do you think? Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___;

decision on the `du' control files

1998-02-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
ages. Otherwise, people might implement the generation of du files themselves, and afterwards receive a bug report by Lintian :) Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
sential packages should only specify pre-depends, no depends) then this should definitely be documented somewhere in the manuals. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux?[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lintian] app-defaults mode 444

1998-02-15 Thread Christian Schwarz
file /usr/doc/X11/debian.README already mentions: `Please note that this distribution expects you to leave app-defaults files unchanged. If you want to customise X applications globally, put your customisations in /etc/X11/Xresources.' Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do

Re: [LONG MESSAGE] Re: `du' control files

1998-02-15 Thread Christian Schwarz
able to check disk space, we should discuss this in detail again. Does everyone agree?? Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux?[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit

Re: `du' control files

1998-02-15 Thread Christian Schwarz
o.' Does everyone agree on this now? If so, I'll put the lintian check script for the `du' files back in. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don't know Perl? [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROT

Re: manpages for X11 games?

1998-02-15 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Joey Hess wrote: > Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > On a related note, what is the policy about the endings of manpages (e.g. > > > /usr/X11R6/man1/package.1x.gz or /usr/X11R6/man1/package.1.gz) > > > > Good point, we haven't discus

Re: `du' control files

1998-02-15 Thread Christian Schwarz
f this program has to > scan the tar to see if the program fits in the HD... why can't it do a "dpkg > -c package.deb"?. [snip] Note, that control files (such as `du') can be extracted without having tar unpacking and uncompressing the whole file. Thus, having a du file

Re: `du' control files

1998-02-15 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 15 Feb 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Christian> Let me summarize this discussion so far: There is a good > Christian> use for the `du' control files but there isn't

Re: `du' control files

1998-02-15 Thread Christian Schwarz
equired or even mentioned in the policy manual). Any contrary positions? Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB

Re: manpages for X11 games?

1998-02-15 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Adrian Bridgett wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 09:30:51AM +0100, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > > Recall, that we have decided to put X11 games into /usr/games instead of > > /usr/X11R6/bin. > > > > But where should manpages for X11 games

Re: limiting user access

1998-02-13 Thread Christian Schwarz
e FHS doesn't like /var/lib) The FHS would want us to move /var/lib/dpkg to /var/state/dpkg. However, we've already decided NOT to do this. (It's simply too dangerous.) Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debi

`du' control files

1998-02-13 Thread Christian Schwarz
Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don't know Perl? [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA http://www.perl.com http://fatman.mathematik.tu-m

manpages for X11 games?

1998-02-13 Thread Christian Schwarz
people ask me now if that's correct.) Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / \\\__/ !PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34

Re: /etc/init.d/README and policy manual

1998-02-10 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > According to Christian Schwarz: > > As you've probably seen from my last policy weekly posting (issue #5), > > policy will be changed to force each /etc/init.d/foo script to support the > > `restart' and `force-r

what to do with `namespace-pollution'

1998-02-10 Thread Christian Schwarz
So the question is, how should we treat non-standard packages which install binaries with short names? A good example is the `sam' package which installs a binary `B'. (sam is a plan9 editor) That file name is used upstream too. Please tell me what you think about this. Thanks, Chr

Re: md5sums files (was Re: over 30000 bugs in our archive (!))

1998-02-09 Thread Christian Schwarz
duced by deb-make some time ago and never has been widely discussed. AFAIR, a better solution than md5sums files would be to store more information about the unpacked files, as setuid bits, etc. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMA

awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-09 Thread Christian Schwarz
ly be documented in the policy manual, and the base-files package should contain a note about the `Depends: awk' somewhere in a README.Debian file. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian has a logo!

maintainer policy and project organization

1998-02-04 Thread Christian Schwarz
has to be clearly marked as `coordinator' at some place, for example in the `Maintainer:' field. The email address could then refer to some mail alias, all mail sent to which will be forwarded to the different maintainers. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz

Re: Christian Schwarz

1998-02-04 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > Christian Schwarz: > > Well, first of all current policy says ``Every package must have > > exactly one maintainer at a time.'' (see section 2.3.2 The maintainer > > of a package). So this is the case. Whether it `shou

Re: PW#5-12: New upload procedure

1998-02-03 Thread Christian Schwarz
procedure up-to-date in case any changes are necessary in the future. (It will probably take some time until all developers have upgraded to the latest dpkg-dev package.) Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], !

Re: Christian Schwarz

1998-02-03 Thread Christian Schwarz
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" where the "Description" uniquely defines a set of maintainers, and may be listed on several packages which are all maintained by the same developers. The email address has to be some mail alias; all mails sent to that address have to be forwarded to all m

Re: PW#5-12: New upload procedure

1998-02-03 Thread Christian Schwarz
e for "XC-Comment", e.g., "XC-Announcement" or "XC-Upload-Comment". Both alternatives are fine with me--probably the last one (XC-Upload-Comment) describes the field more precisely than the other names. Any other preferences? Thanks, Chris -- Chri

Re: beta software ok for unstable? (was: Re: policy Q's WRT imapd)

1998-02-02 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Santiago Vila wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > Yes. Beta software is ok for "unstable". Only "critical" software (i.e., > > programs that are likely to trash your

Re: PW#5-12: New upload procedure

1998-02-02 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > Christian Schwarz: > >* Changed `closes' and `closed' term into `fixes' > > > > (This has been suggested by a few people. Please tell me if `closes' > > would still be preferred.) > &

Re: PW#5-3: How packages can register cron jobs

1998-02-02 Thread Christian Schwarz
ian). But if conffiles are not marked as `conffiles' anymore, this will be nearly impossible. Wouldn't it be good to list such `configuration files' (that need to be changed by scripts) in a new control field? Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [

Re: about unique maintainer address policy

1998-02-02 Thread Christian Schwarz
ainer can then be done simply by comparing the text in front of `<[EMAIL PROTECTED]'> to the records in the DB. ---cut-here----- Comments are welcome! Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian has a logo!

Re: Bug#17621: packaging-manual: about versions based on dates

1998-02-02 Thread Christian Schwarz
stent. > > 3. Add `whose version numbers include dates' before `should always' in > para.5, line 2. (Clarification that this is not intented to deprecate > packages with non-date version numbers.) I agree to all these changes. Thanks, Chris -- Christian

Re: multi-platform, FSSTND compliance, and /usr/share/

1998-02-02 Thread Christian Schwarz
first, before anyone starts changing packages. As the usr of /usr/share is fine with the FSSTND but is not required by the FSSTND, there is no problem if packages use this directory. But moving files into this directory is not allowed _now_ if this breakes other packages. Thanks, Chris --

Re: multi-platform, FSSTND compliance, and /usr/share/

1998-01-30 Thread Christian Schwarz
) You are right that FHS _would_ require us to move /var/lib/dpkg, but we already decided not to do this. (The risk is simply to high.) Perhaps we'll make more exceptions to the FHS--we haven't decided on this yet. Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz

Re: lintian and e2fsprogs: doc-directory policy

1998-01-30 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 30 Jan 1998, James Troup wrote: > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > As long as the binary packages `Depend:' (or `Recommend:') the > > package containing /usr/doc/source-package and they install a > > symlink /usr/doc/binary-package

Re: about unique maintainer address policy

1998-01-30 Thread Christian Schwarz
one person using his nick name in front of the maintainer addresses. Note, that in my proposal I didn't not say that that text in front of the address has to be the real name as stored in the DB. We could use any name there as long it's unique: Christian Schwarz 1 <[EMAIL P

Re: [kooij@mpn.cp.philips.com: Bug#17545: sendfile: sendfile modifies /etc/profile which is owned by bash]

1998-01-30 Thread Christian Schwarz
matic approach to administration of config-files (don't > tell this to the folks who've been battling on debian-admintool ;-) You are right. Isn't that what COAS will do? I guess we should wait until COAS is ready. Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz

Re: about unique maintainer address policy

1998-01-30 Thread Christian Schwarz
aintainer are forwarded to the same system. Is this too restrictive (i.e., does someone want different mail servers for different packages)? It would be good if the people who want our policy to be changed in this respect (Ian?) to tell us their opinion. I want to set up the DB ASAP and this is the

Re: lintian and e2fsprogs: doc-directory policy

1998-01-30 Thread Christian Schwarz
uch better. (I still like your suggestion, though.) Any other opinions? Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz Do you know [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian GNU/Linux?[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D

about unique maintainer address policy

1998-01-28 Thread Christian Schwarz
ppreciated! I'd would be good if we can come to a consensus quickly since we (Tim and I) are currently working on the DB and want to fill it ASAP. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: lintian and e2fsprogs: doc-directory policy

1998-01-27 Thread Christian Schwarz
e any objections against relaxing policy WRT copyright files, as long as these two points are covered. Thanks, Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / \\

Re: Versionning of non-standalone library packages

1998-01-26 Thread Christian Schwarz
et the information about which shlibs are included out of the package itself, I suggest to mention the shlibs in the Description or some other control field. I don't think that using the package name would be a good idea. Any other opinions here?? Thanks, Chris -- Chri

Re: PW#5-7: Linking shared libraries with -lc

1998-01-26 Thread Christian Schwarz
r (more experienced) developers may go for this... or I may > be wrong about the way the linker works. It would be good if someone more experienced than I am could comment on Marcelo's arguments against linking shared libraries with `-l'. If his arguments are valid (I really can't t

Re: Bug#7903: acknowledged by developer (sendmail+deliver+mailx behaviour on delivering local mail)

1998-01-26 Thread Christian Schwarz
people want it this way, the bug tracking system should be extended to differentiate between the different releases: A bug can exist in a package in one or more releases, and it can be fixed in one or more releases, etc. Cheers, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAI

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