Policy progress, was Re: Bug#208010: [PROPOSAL] init script LSB 1.3 compliance (revised)

2003-09-02 Thread Stefan Gybas
Manoj Srivastava wrote: So from now on, we'll only change Policy after all packages comply with the proposed changes? Yes. This is how policy has always worked; too. Maybe in most cases, but I think not in all cases. Counter examples are the move from FSSTND to FHS in Policy 3.0.0

Re: Policy progress

2003-09-02 Thread Stefan Gybas
Josip Rodin wrote: Sorry, I lost you there. Is that to make us believe FHS transition was proper or improper, necessary or unnecessary, or what? :) No, I only wanted to show that it has been impossible the get major Policy changes accepted in the past 4 years. It's not that there haven't

Re: Policy progress

2003-09-02 Thread Stefan Gybas
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 08:09:18PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: And how do you suppose this consensus thing works if you can't get a consensus over the said policy changes? I sense a grave misunderstanding... It doesn't work, you'll never get a consensus with over 1000 developers. That's why I'd

Re: Policy progress

2003-09-02 Thread Stefan Gybas
Manoj Srivastava wrote: I would not want this to change. Anyone can make innovative proposals, but the hard part is getting things to work -- and just doing it. Debhelper, debconf, the whole testing distribution -- were all proposed, and worked on, without first getting policy to

Bug#208010: [PROPOSAL] init script LSB 1.3 compliance (revised)

2003-09-01 Thread Stefan Gybas
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:58:50AM +0200, Martin Godisch wrote: Attached an updated proposal, without exit code 5 clause. I second this updated proposal. I think status should be mandatory so it could be used by maintainer scripts on package upgrades. This way, a service would not be started

Bug#208010: [PROPOSAL] init script LSB 1.3 compliance (revised)

2003-09-01 Thread Stefan Gybas
Andrew Suffield wrote: You can't make it mandatory before you implement it. I'll implement status for the init script and the changes to the maintainer scripts in my packages with the next upload. What else should I implement? Stefan

Re: Bug#208010: [PROPOSAL] init script LSB 1.3 compliance (revised)

2003-09-01 Thread Stefan Gybas
[Directly answering to -policy, this does not need to be archived in the BTS.] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Tested patches against all init-script using packages to the BTS. So from now on, we'll only change Policy after all packages comply with the proposed changes? We'll never make

Re: [RFD]: Question regarding actions to take on --purge of a package.

2000-02-05 Thread Stefan Gybas
Adam Heath wrote: libapache-mod-jserv stored data into /etc/apache Yes, but it also depended on apache so you could not remove apache without breaking dependencies. -- Stefan Gybas

Re: persistence of /usr/doc/$pkg (Was: debhelper: /usr/doc problems again)

1999-10-08 Thread Stefan Gybas
does not have this problem. -- Stefan Gybas

Re: /usr/doc symlink in new packages

1999-10-01 Thread Stefan Gybas
an additional symlink in /usr/share/doc/ to /usr/share/doc/$package). So what is the exact reason why you think this will not work? -- Stefan Gybas

/usr/doc symlink in new packages

1999-09-30 Thread Stefan Gybas
was a symlink (to another directory in /usr/doc). -- Stefan Gybas

Re: Bug#44079: .dhelp file in /usr/doc stops jserv install, symlink proposal done wrong

1999-09-04 Thread Stefan Gybas
(if it is empty) in the postinst? -- Stefan Gybas

Bug#41232: AMENDMENT 1999-07-23] Build-time dependencies on binary packages

1999-08-07 Thread Stefan Gybas
to build, so you can't just say Build-Depends: lpr. I'll accept any choice for the other open points, so I hope we'll get a consensus and accept the proposal (the sooner the better). -- Stefan Gybas

Bug#41232: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] Build-time dependencies on binary packages

1999-08-04 Thread Stefan Gybas
. -- Stefan Gybas

Bug#41232: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] Build-time dependencies on binary packages

1999-08-02 Thread Stefan Gybas
donĀ“t think they are necessary, so I vote for removing them from the proposal (as Richard suggested). About 4 or 6 fields (actually 2 or 3 without *-Conflicts:): Both models are fine for me, I prefer the one with 3 fields. -- Stefan Gybas

Bug#41113: Proposal: Naming Conventions for modules

1999-07-19 Thread Stefan Gybas
. Was this changed when epochs were introduced? We could then name perl packages like perl-xml::cgi, perl-net::dns and perl-uri, so a search for xml::cgi would find the correct package. -- Stefan Gybas

Bug#40766: Rewrite of configuration files section

1999-07-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
Hamish Moffatt wrote: inetd.conf is _not_ a conffile. Ok, now I understand. In a previous mail you once wrote conffile when you probably meant configuration file which is not a conffile and this was causing somy of my confusion. Sorry for this! -- Stefan Gybas

Bug#40766: Rewrite of configuration files section

1999-07-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
seconder (Joey Hess). I second both proposals. -- Stefan Gybas

Bug#40706: usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc

1999-07-17 Thread Stefan Gybas
Roland Rosenfeld wrote: If there really is a technical problem with this link as mentioned by Santiago (I didn't check this myself), we can handle this symlink in postinst: I second this proposal (I mean the whole symlink proposal, not just this addition). -- Stefan Gybas

Bug#40766: Rewrite of configuration files section

1999-07-17 Thread Stefan Gybas
cases. So what should I do? Let the user do the changes to the configuration files? Ask a lot of questions in the postinst? IMHO the automatic setup in the postinst is a very user friendly solution. -- Stefan Gybas