Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This discussion is very silly. I shall not comment on this
> thread again.
Me neither.
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>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> (1) There is nothing preventing the author from dashing off a
Raul> short note clarifying the issue. It's not like he's dead, or
Raul> contractually prohibited from participating, etc.
And he did.
Raul> (2) I have no personal
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suggest this is clear enough. As the author has left Debian
> (you were aware of that, were you not?), that would be hard to do,
> and, in any case is not required. What reason do you have for
> outlawing the specification of the 5rth digit i
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>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> I suggest that it be ignored until clarified by its author.
I suggest this is clear enough. As the author has left Debian
(you were aware of that, were you not?), that would be hard to do,
and, in any case is not required. Wh
To stop the big confusion, this is what I wanted to express with the
changelog notice: (Note, that you'll have to check whether you like this
setup--this is just my very personal opinion. Any future policy
manager/editor should probably then update the manuals if there is a
consensus about this.)
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Either. Both. Have you read the original statement?
Ok, I found the original statement.
I suggest that it be ignored until clarified by its author.
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>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I don't think the wording does leave room for any
>> interpretation. You are free to read it in native english or in
>> english written by a german guy, you still get the same meaning:
>> O
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think the wording does leave room for any interpretation. You are
> free to read it in native english or in english written by a german guy,
> you still get the same meaning: Out of w.x.y.z, the first three have to be
> coorect (w.x.y) while the
On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 07:11:36PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
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> On 4 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> > Santiago> The intention of Christian, I think, was precisely not to
> > Santiago> have to change the Standards-Version field so often, by
> > Santia
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On 4 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Santiago> The intention of Christian, I think, was precisely not to
> Santiago> have to change the Standards-Version field so often, by
> Santiago> specifying only the first three digits of it.
>
> What are you bas
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You suddenly seem to be arguing that policy never be amended
> since we may just be screwing it up.
Er... no. Not even close.
Later,
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>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> The issue isn't trust. The issue is understanding.
I think I am willing to give new maintainers the benfit of
doubt as to whether they can excercise enough judgment to know if
they understand a subject well enough to go and
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>>"Martin" == Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> To get the meaning you want, the text should say:
>>> "Packages should specify only the first three digits ..." or just
>>> "Packages should specify the first three digits ..."
>Martin> Correct, however
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Raul> You honestly think this is good enough for new developers? I
> Raul> must confess that I'm not really in touch with the sort of
> Raul> things they would think.
>
> Of course. You gotta trust people some time. I think we give
> folks the
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>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would be willing to say that we leave determination of the point
>> when following policy is detrimental to the package to the
>> maintainers themselves; so Dale could decide that strip
Hi,
>>"Martin" == Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> "Oliver Elphick" writes:
>> To get the meaning you want, the text should say:
>>
>> "Packages should specify only the first three digits ..." or just
>> "Packages should specify the first three digits ..."
Martin> Correct, ho
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Raul> I've mostly agreed with (Buddha and Philip's) statement you
> Raul> quoted a few days ago which talks about what to do when policy
> Raul> doesn't apply properly. I think it has a weakness: in creating
> Raul> the rules for how "debian-policy" is
"Oliver Elphick" writes:
> To get the meaning you want, the text should say:
>
>"Packages should specify only the first three digits ..."
> or just
>"Packages should specify the first three digits ..."
Correct, however I think that was the intention of the wording, and it
should be clar
Hi,
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> Policy SHOULD be followed, in the general case. I'd even agree
Raul> that in a large number of specific cases (but not all), policy
Raul> MUST be followed. You're the one that has decided that this
Raul> means that it SHOULD NOT be foll
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> In any case, policy is not meant to be followed anyway.
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Raul> Cut it out, Manoj.
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why? You should be happy I'm on your side now. Were you not objecting
> to th
Hi,
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In any case, policy is not meant to be followed anyway.
Raul> Cut it out, Manoj.
Why? You should be happy I'm on your side now. Were you not
objecting to the statement that polic
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>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Santiago> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 2 May 1998, Manoj
Santiago> Srivastava wrote:
>> Packages only have to specify the first three digits of the version
>> number in the `Standards-Version' field of their source packages.
Santiago Vila wrote:
>On 2 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
>> Packages only have to specify the first three digits of the
>> version number in the `Standards-Version' field of their source
>> packages.
>
>"only three" is "three".
>
>I fully agree with Martin in that "if
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On 2 May 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>Packages only have to specify the first three digits of the
> version number in the `Standards-Version' field of their source
> packages.
"only three" is "three".
I fully agree with Martin in that "if 'at least
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In any case, policy is not meant to be followed anyway.
Cut it out, Manoj.
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>>"Martin" == Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Santiago> The changelog says: If only the patch-level digit is
Santiago> incremented, no changes in policy have been made, except bug
Santiago> fixes and clarifications. Packages only
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Santiago> The changelog says:
> Santiago> If only the patch-level digit is incremented, no changes in
> Santiago> policy have been made, except bug fixes and
> Santiago> clarifications. Packages only have to specify the first
> Santiago> three digits
Hi,
[moving discussion to the policy list]
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Santiago> The changelog says:
Santiago> If only the patch-level digit is incremented, no changes in
Santiago> policy have been made, except bug fixes and
Santiago> clarifications. Package
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