Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2012-08-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, In 2009, Colin Watson wrote: /etc/kernel-img.conf is a weird case. To start with, it's initially created by the installer (base-installer) and the update-grub line is added by another part of the installer (grub-installer). Obviously the installer can't own a configuration file

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2012-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com writes: That last if seems like an odd and not too useful loophole. It would be nicer for policy to clearly state that packages *should not* modify configuration files owned by other packages directly, whether a tool for indirectly modifying is provided or

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2012-08-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 08:55:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : We should be consistent about terminology. Other than that nit, seconded. Seconded as well. This bug reminds me #683495 (#!/usr/bin/perl MUST or SHOULD?), which is also about must statements encapsulated in a should area. In

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:54:10PM +0200, Felix Zielcke wrote: For example we grub/grub2 maintainers have the problem that some people still have /sbin/update-grub in their /etc/kernel-img.conf. grub-legacy has a wrapper to warn about this since etch, but we recently got a bug report in grub2

Re: Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Jun 18 2009, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:54:10PM +0200, Felix Zielcke wrote: In message #36 [0] and #46 [1], he told me that we should either keep it as an symlink or just edit automatically /etc/kernel-img.conf /etc/kernel-img.conf is edited by grub-installer

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-17 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Don Armstrong wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: so it seems that the alternative interpretation, is that if there is a interface, then it must be used, but all that is wrapped in a should, which is not as binding as a must. While this section of policy could probably be

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-17 Thread Felix Zielcke
There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about wether it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files (not 'conffiles') in maintainer scripts. For example by me. For me it isn't clear. For example we grub/grub2 maintainers have the problem that some people still have

Re: Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Jun 17 2009, Felix Zielcke wrote: There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about wether it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files (not 'conffiles') in maintainer scripts. For example by me. For me it isn't clear. 10.7.4 says: The owning package

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Sune Vuorela
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.1.0 Severity: important Hi There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about wether it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files (not 'conffiles') in maintainer scripts. My interpretation of policy is that you are only allowed to

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:01:38AM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.1.0 Severity: important Hi There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about wether it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files (not 'conffiles') in

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Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Russ Allbery
severity 533287 wishlist thanks Sune Vuorela report...@pusling.com writes: There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about wether it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files (not 'conffiles') in maintainer scripts. My interpretation of policy is that you are

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 20:05:40 Russ Allbery wrote: severity 533287 wishlist thanks Sune Vuorela report...@pusling.com writes: There has recently on #debian-devel been a few discussions about wether it was allowed to edit other packages configuration files (not 'conffiles') in

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Sune Vuorela report...@pusling.com writes: To be honest, I also have a hard time seeing the issues, but after participating two days in a row debating this with different people in #debian-devel, I just thought that something must be unclear. I asked a bit, and a specific should the

Bug#533287: debian-policy: please clarify 10.7.4

2009-06-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: so it seems that the alternative interpretation, is that if there is a interface, then it must be used, but all that is wrapped in a should, which is not as binding as a must. While this section of policy could probably be clarified, violating a should