Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-06-09 Thread Chris Waters
Ok, here, as promised, is the final draft. I've let this idle for a bit while I was doing other things, so here's a quick recap for those who missed or forgot the original discussion. Policy says you must follow the FHS, period, and then goes on to say you must do things (the /usr/doc symlink,

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-06-09 Thread Arthur Korn
Seconded Chris Waters schrieb: --- debian-policy.sgml~ Mon May 21 10:45:51 2001 +++ debian-policy.sgmlThu Jun 7 11:59:58 2001 @@ -3983,8 +3983,9 @@ p The location of all installed files and directories must - comply with the Linux File system

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-06-09 Thread Steve Greenland
On 09-Jun-01, 11:53 (CDT), Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- debian-policy.sgml~ Mon May 21 10:45:51 2001 +++ debian-policy.sgmlThu Jun 7 11:59:58 2001 @@ -3983,8 +3983,9 @@ p The location of all installed files and directories must -

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-06-09 Thread Chris Waters
severity 98291 normal retitle 98291 [AMENDMENT 09/06/2001] Clarifying FHS policy thanks With seconds from Arthur Korn [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED], this is now a formal amendment. Since this proposal has already been discussed quite a bit, no packages are affected,

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Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: severity 98291 normal Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us Severity set to `normal'. retitle 98291 [AMENDMENT 09/06/2001] Clarifying FHS policy Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us Changed Bug title. thanks Stopping processing

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-06-09 Thread Chris Waters
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:46:10PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: Seconded. Thanks It would be nice if there were a footnote to the first sentence listing the D-P sections that conflicted... Yes, I suppose it might be. But I'm too lazy to write one right now, and I'd rather not stretch this

Re: Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-06-07 Thread Chris Waters
Picking this back up where I left it after a brief hiatus... With the BTS currently down, I can't really do a lot to move this proposal forward, but I thought I'd at least post the final version that aj and I hammered out. This meets our goals of being simple, direct, and addressing the actual

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-24 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:12:30PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: (The exceptions we allow are cases where (a) the FHS doesn't really say anything useful, like where CVS repositories should go, and (b) /usr/doc, which we're aiming

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-24 Thread Arthur Korn
Hi Anthony Towns schrieb: Are there more? Yes, there's /usr/lib/menu, which we don't even have a migration strategy for, Uh, that's possibly architecture dependent though: it'll contain different things on different arches if, eg, you support i386 and sparc and have acroread.deb

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-24 Thread Chris Waters
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 08:06:22AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:12:30PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: As for (b), no, we're aiming for compatibility! Grrr! :-) No, I mean we're aiming to move all the docs to /usr/share/doc for woody anyway; so this issue is just

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-24 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:12:30PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: and there are cross-compilers, whose time-honored standard locations have been completely banned by the FHS. On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 11:22:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Right. But again: the FHS doesn't say anything useful

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-23 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:03:57AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: How about: must be compatible with and should comply with the FHS. (Here I'm using RFC meanings of must and should; if this is a problem at the moment, try should be compatible with and ideally should comply with). Is there an

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-23 Thread Thomas Smith
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:09:03PM +1000, Edward C. Lang wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 06:57:19PM -0500, Thomas Smith wrote: How about: The location of all installed files and directories must be compatible with the Linux Filesystem Heirarchy Standard (FHS), and should be compliant

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-23 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:03:57AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: How about: must be compatible with and should comply with the FHS. (Here I'm using RFC meanings of must and should; if this is a problem at the moment, try should be

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-23 Thread Chris Waters
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:17:57PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: (The exceptions we allow are cases where (a) the FHS doesn't really say anything useful, like where CVS repositories should go, and (b) /usr/doc, which we're aiming for compliance with anyway. Are there more?) As for (a), the FHS

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-23 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:12:30PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: As for (b), no, we're aiming for compatibility! Grrr! :-) No, I mean we're aiming to move all the docs to /usr/share/doc for woody anyway; so this issue is just about done with anyway. (Well, except that the existance of the

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Waters
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:03:57AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: How about: must be compatible with and should comply with the FHS. [or] should be compatible with and ideally should comply with). Hmm, yes, my first draft actually read: The location of all installed files and directories must

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-22 Thread Thomas Smith
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:59:11AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:03:57AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: How about: must be compatible with and should comply with the FHS. [or] should be compatible with and ideally should comply with). Hmm, yes, my first draft

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-21 Thread Chris Waters
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.4.0 Severity: wishlist There is a bit of a glaring bug in policy. An earlier attempt to address this was made in #60461, but it seems like people found that one confusing, and there has been no progress on it. This proposal is intended to supersede #60461,

Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:43:08AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: --- debian-policy.sgml~ Mon May 21 10:45:51 2001 +++ debian-policy.sgmlMon May 21 10:54:35 2001 @@ -3982,8 +3982,8 @@ headingLinux File system Structure/heading p - The location of all

Re: Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-05-21 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Chris Waters wrote: Something more like ``The location of all installed files and directories must comply with the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, except where indicated otherwise (or where it's just plain stupid).'' Perfect. Let's do it! (I might suggest