Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Richard Braakman
Ian Jackson wrote: > Santiago Vila writes ("Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports"): > ... > > Mmm, well, what if I sent just one bug against ftp.debian.org saying > > "these 100 packages should not have `optional' priority but `extra'&quo

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Santiago Vila writes ("Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports"): ... > Mmm, requiring a lot of action for a lot of packages has not to be > discussed also? This is also a problem, not only getting rid of the bug > themselves, because people may disagree very easily. By se

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > Santiago Vila writes ("Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports"): > ... > > Mmm, well, what if I sent just one bug against ftp.debian.org saying > > "these 100 packages should not ha

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Christian Schwarz writes ("Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports"): ... > You're proposal (at least, something very similar) is already policy. The > `Debian Developer's Reference' reads: [...] Ah. My new phrasing is somewhat stronger, and covers any kind o

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Santiago Vila writes ("Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports"): ... > Mmm, well, what if I sent just one bug against ftp.debian.org saying > "these 100 packages should not have `optional' priority but `extra'"? > > I would say your proposed polic

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-20 Thread Brian White
> > > Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers > > > without prior approval for the specific person in question to send > > > mail under those specific circumstances. > > > > approval from whom? > > Several people already have "mass mailer" scripts (bcwhite, Christian,

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports (was: Re: Bug Terrorism?

1998-03-20 Thread Brian White
> 1) The bug server takes care of reminding maintainers that have packages >with old unattended bugs. Everyone knows that there are old bugs open. >There is no need to send reminders without additional information specific >to the bug. Therefore, sending reminders to a bunch of old bu

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-19 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 18.03.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As I mentioned in a previsou message, I do not like this > trend. I understand people are annoyed at spurious bug reports, but > the goal is to have packages without bugs, and strictly prohibiting > automate

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-19 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers > without prior approval for the specific person in question to send > mail under those specific circumstances. > > Even for violation by packages o

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-19 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: > James Troup: > > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers > > > without prior approval for the specific person in question to send > > > mail under those specific circumstances. > >

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports (was: Re: Bug Terrorism?

1998-03-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Mar 18, 1998 at 01:43:19PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > I have a few comments on this. > > 2) Lintian bugs: Yes, the maintainer should make sure that the > package passes Lintian checks. If they do not, however, they > should expect to see bugs reported about th

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-19 Thread Ian Jackson
James Troup: > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers > > without prior approval for the specific person in question to send > > mail under those specific circumstances. > > approval from whom? This mailing list. Ian. -

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports (was: Re: Bug Terrorism?

1998-03-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Mar 18, 1998 at 07:35:48PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > 3) Any bug that can be detected by a script or other automated way should > > be > >implemented as Lintian check, because then the check applies also to all > >future versions of the package and all

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports (was: Re: Bug Terrorism?

1998-03-19 Thread Joey Hess
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > 3) Any bug that can be detected by a script or other automated way should be >implemented as Lintian check, because then the check applies also to all >future versions of the package and all advantages of Lintian come into >play. > For this reason, it is

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, As I mentioned in a previsou message, I do not like this trend. I understand people are annoyed at spurious bug reports, but the goal is to have packages without bugs, and strictly prohibiting automated bug reports is a Bad Thing. Secondly, what purpose does asking each and

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports (was: Re: Bug Terrorism?

1998-03-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I have a few comments on this. 2) Lintian bugs: Yes, the maintainer should make sure that the package passes Lintian checks. If they do not, however, they should expect to see bugs reported about that. Lintian should not produce errors about things which are not b

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-18 Thread Vincent Renardias
On 18 Mar 1998, James Troup wrote: > Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers > > without prior approval for the specific person in question to send > > mail under those specific circumstances. > > approval from whom? S

Re: Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-18 Thread James Troup
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers > without prior approval for the specific person in question to send > mail under those specific circumstances. approval from whom? -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Proposal how to handle mass bug reports

1998-03-18 Thread Ian Jackson
I think we should have the following much simpler and clearer policy: Noone may submit many bug reports or send mail to many maintainers without prior approval for the specific person in question to send mail under those specific circumstances. Even for violation by packages of an already-est

Proposal how to handle mass bug reports (was: Re: Bug Terrorism?

1998-03-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Mar 16, 1998 at 03:38:12PM -0500, Igor Grobman wrote: > > With the rash of self-appointed mass-posts of similar bugs (the most > > recent being Michael Bramer's decision that all xpm files should be > > moved), I think we need policy as to what can be done when someone trys to > > formulate