Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-18 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 18 Feb 1998, James Troup wrote: > Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [ ... ] > > > Perhaps we should just make mawk and gawk to Pre-Depend on libc6 > > instead? > > With all due respect, you've 100% missed the point of making awk an > essential

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-18 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 18 Feb 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > >>"Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Christian> On 18 Feb 1998, James Troup wrote: > > Christian> [extremly essential vs. essential] > > Christian> I fully agree to what James said. So I think it would be > Christi

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christian> On 18 Feb 1998, James Troup wrote: Christian> [extremly essential vs. essential] Christian> I fully agree to what James said. So I think it would be Christian> good to check out all "Essential" packages in which Chris

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-18 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 18 Feb 1998, James Troup wrote: [extremly essential vs. essential] I fully agree to what James said. So I think it would be good to check out all "Essential" packages in which category they fall. Note, that from the package system's view, there shouldn't be a difference between these two cate

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, [discussion on how a broken depends in procps does not really kill the system] Maybe the correct wuestion is if procps needs t be essential? Does anyone remember the reason why? I did not think that procps binaries are essential -- required maybe (why even that?) but

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-18 Thread James Troup
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, James Troup seems to think that there are two types of > essential packages, "essential" ones and "really essential" ones. I > would like to hear his opinion on this. I brought up the idea of "extremely essential" packages for the simple reason

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-17 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > On 16 Feb 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > I must admit I didn't notice this discussion until I saw the discussion > about the bug reports on this topic. Could someone please explain in a few > sentences the tech

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-17 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 16 Feb 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: [snip] > In conclusion, I think we do need awk to be an essential > package, and failing a mechanism to mark a virtual package essential, > I think base-files should again depend on awk. I fully agree. Unless there are any objections: Santiago, plea

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Looking back at my interaction on this thread, and looking again at the changelog, I have come to the realization that I have been making an ass of myself out here. Santiago, please accept my apologies. You were not in the wrong, and definitely did not deserve the flammage

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Santiago> The base-files maintainer asked Christian about the issue, Santiago> who then asked in debian-policy, and NOBODY answered saying Santiago> "yes, this is the right thing to do", so he then removed the Santiago> depends line because

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-16 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 16 Feb 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > The only bug is that the base-files maintainer dropped the > depends line without understanding the consequences. The base-files maintainer asked Christian about the issue, who then asked in debian-policy, and NO

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-16 Thread Adam Klein
On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 01:10:58PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > Package mawk, which provides awk, is required. If base files > depends on awk, it wold also be essential. I think rather than > filing about 1700 bug reports against packages that use awk, > base-files package sho

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Santiago> It was our intention (at that time) to make awk a "virtual Santiago> essential package"? If yes, was it dropped? Yes. The only way to do this is by having an essential package depend on it (we can't have virtual pack

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Package mawk, which provides awk, is required. If base files depends on awk, it wold also be essential. I think rather than filing about 1700 bug reports against packages that use awk, base-files package should again depend on awk. packages should not have to declare dependencies o

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-16 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote: > Santiago (base-files maintainer) pointed out that the current base-files > package depends on the virtual package `awk' which makes awk `implicitely' > essential. > > (With that it is guaranteed, that _some_ awk ve

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-09 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 9 Feb 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Can we have essential virtual packages? I was under the > impression that to do so one made a real essential package depend on > the said virtual package (which descibes the current situation). Exactly, the issue

Re: awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Can we haveessential virtual packages? I was under the impression that to do so one made a real essential package depend on the said virtual package (which descibes the current situation). manoj -- "Neighbors!! We got neighbors! We ain't supposed to have any neighbors,

awk: essential virtual package?

1998-02-09 Thread Christian Schwarz
Santiago (base-files maintainer) pointed out that the current base-files package depends on the virtual package `awk' which makes awk `implicitely' essential. (With that it is guaranteed, that _some_ awk version is always installed, either gawk or mawk or both.) This brings up the following que