Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Brad Midgley
> Yep, the older OF's speak COFF - not perfectly, but usably. the OF on oldworld macs is so fragile things would break all the time. say the words "default catch" and developers shudder. ;) there are workarounds galore and some only apply to a specific computer model. miboot is the cleanest and m

libgc4: broken on PowerPC

2000-02-07 Thread C.M. Connelly
Package: libgc4 Version: 4.14-6 Severity: grave I just filed a bug report against w3m (#57121), which uses libgc4, but rumor has it that the problem is actually with libgc4, which is apparently broken on PowerPC. Basically, w3m segfaults on startup: diziet% w3m Segmentation fault dizi

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 05:18:19AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 05:21:49AM -0800, Joel Klecker wrote: > > > > That's not true, even the most broken versions of Apple OF understand HFS > > filesystems on floppies at least. > > they do? interesting, from docs i had read from

Re: getting a kernel to recognize scsi on a ppc 7200

2000-02-07 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
I installed on a 7200 last week without a hitch. Not using the available version of the installer, though. Expect a new one very, very soon. On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 01:18:06AM -0800, David P. Reese Jr. wrote: > for the past month ive been trying to get various dists of debian ppc > to properly b

Re: w3m

2000-02-07 Thread Nelson Abramson
Matt Porter wrote: > Please file the bug against libgc. I looked at this a while back and found > it was in this library it uses for garbage collection...sorry I forgot to > file a bug report. > I had an issue w/ the garbage collector last year, while trying to compile gEDA. The fix was to just

Re: Questions about install procedure

2000-02-07 Thread Nelson Abramson
Jefferson Provost wrote: > What version of BootX are you running? I had the same problem on a G3 > Powerbook running MacOS 9. The nearest I can figure, BootX 1.1.3 is > incompatible with MacOS 9 and/or systems w/ ATA/IDE disks. I got BootX > 1.2b3 and things worked fine. The issue, AFAIK is gr

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:45:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if there is any information out there about booting the > potato floppies using open-firmware on a powermac? > > I have a UMAX S900 (clone 9500 motherboard) and I would love to install > debian linux o

Re: Questions about install procedure

2000-02-07 Thread John Murden
>> I've been trying to use BootX, which can't find the >> livefilesysytem and then drops me into the Redhat installer which >> can't find the packages to install. I'm having the same difficulties trying to install on an iBook running OS 8.6. And I'm using BootX 1.2b3.

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Logan Hall
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2000, Logan Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >What computers does the SystemDisk tool support? I have a Biege G3 > tower (the > >ones that shipped just before they switched to B&W). Also will the > SystemDisk > >tool work to

Re: w3m

2000-02-07 Thread Matt Porter
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 02:33:57PM -0500, Josh Huber wrote: > I'm having trouble with w3m: > $ w3m > Segmentation Fault > > > w3m is a nifty console based web browser that supports frames/tables quite > well... Please file the bug against libgc. I looked at this a while back and found it was in

w3m

2000-02-07 Thread Josh Huber
I'm having trouble with w3m: $ w3m Segmentation Fault w3m is a nifty console based web browser that supports frames/tables quite well... Josh

Re: getting a kernel to recognize scsi on a ppc 7200

2000-02-07 Thread C.M. Connelly
> "EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "DR" == David P. Reese Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> EB> the debian kernel does not appear to support scsi, or at EB> least not the right scsi, I compiled a kernel for a friend EB> of mine running a 7200 that is working for him (have not

Re: Questions about install procedure

2000-02-07 Thread Jefferson Provost
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Hahn Rossman wrote: > I'm attempting install on a Beige G3 desktop with an xrl8 466mhz cpu. > It has an IDE drive, a scsi-2 drive, and a ultra2W on a pci > controller. I've been trying to use BootX, which cant find the > livefilesysytem and then drops me into the Redhat insta

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Mon, Feb 7, 2000, Logan Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What computers does the SystemDisk tool support? I have a Biege G3 tower (the >ones that shipped just before they switched to B&W). Also will the SystemDisk >tool work to boot linux at all? I use BootX right now but I am looking into >

Re: Questions about install procedure

2000-02-07 Thread Hahn Rossman
I'm attempting install on a Beige G3 desktop with an xrl8 466mhz cpu. It has an IDE drive, a scsi-2 drive, and a ultra2W on a pci controller. I've been trying to use BootX, which cant find the livefilesysytem and then drops me into the Redhat installer which can't find the packages to install. I ha

Re: Altivec and binary compatibility

2000-02-07 Thread Adrian Cox
Giuliano Pochini wrote: Giuliano Pochini wrote: > > As the jmp_buf is a different size in Altivec and non-Altivec code > > Because with Altivec we need to save V registers, right ? Well, I suppose > intel developers had the same problem with P-III "vector" unit. How did they > solve the problem

Re: Altivec and binary compatibility

2000-02-07 Thread Giuliano Pochini
> Altivec raises an interesting question of binary compatibility, in the > area of C++ exceptions and C setjmp/longjmp. > > As the jmp_buf is a different size in Altivec and non-Altivec code Because with Altivec we need to save V registers, right ? Well, I suppose intel developers had the same

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Logan Hall
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2000, Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >That's not true, even the most broken versions of Apple OF understand HFS > >filesystems on floppies at least. > > Hum... yes and no... > > OldWorld machines do have HFS support

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Mon, Feb 7, 2000, Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That's not true, even the most broken versions of Apple OF understand HFS >filesystems on floppies at least. Hum... yes and no... OldWorld machines do have HFS support, but it's somewhat bogus. Basically, it works as long as you f

Re: getting a kernel to recognize scsi on a ppc 7200

2000-02-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 09:20:27AM -0500, Nelson Abramson wrote: > "David P. Reese Jr." wrote: > > > for the past month ive been trying to get various dists of debian ppc > > to properly boot on a ppc 7200. every time that i boot the kernel > > (ive tried sid and potato) it doesnt recognize the s

Re: getting a kernel to recognize scsi on a ppc 7200

2000-02-07 Thread Nelson Abramson
"David P. Reese Jr." wrote: > for the past month ive been trying to get various dists of debian ppc > to properly boot on a ppc 7200. every time that i boot the kernel > (ive tried sid and potato) it doesnt recognize the scsi device. as you > probably know its pretty hard to install the base os

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 05:21:49AM -0800, Joel Klecker wrote: > > That's not true, even the most broken versions of Apple OF understand HFS > filesystems on floppies at least. they do? interesting, from docs i had read from apple it sounded like newworld was the only ones with any useful ability

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Joel Klecker
At 01:41 -0900 2000-02-07, Ethan Benson wrote: >On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:45:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> 0 > setenv boot-device fd:0 ok >> >> 0 > setenv boot-file /linux load_ramdisk=1 root=/dev/ram video=keep ok >> >> 0 > boot unrecognized Client Program formatstate not valid >> >>

Re: getting a kernel to recognize scsi on a ppc 7200

2000-02-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 01:18:06AM -0800, David P. Reese Jr. wrote: > for the past month ive been trying to get various dists of debian ppc > to properly boot on a ppc 7200. every time that i boot the kernel > (ive tried sid and potato) it doesnt recognize the scsi device. as you > probably know

Re: booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 03:45:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if there is any information out there about booting the > potato floppies using open-firmware on a powermac? > > I have a UMAX S900 (clone 9500 motherboard) and I would love to install > debian linux o

getting a kernel to recognize scsi on a ppc 7200

2000-02-07 Thread David P. Reese Jr.
for the past month ive been trying to get various dists of debian ppc to properly boot on a ppc 7200. every time that i boot the kernel (ive tried sid and potato) it doesnt recognize the scsi device. as you probably know its pretty hard to install the base os without a disk. ive run out of ideas

booting from openfirmware

2000-02-07 Thread gsteele
Hello, I was wondering if there is any information out there about booting the potato floppies using open-firmware on a powermac? I have a UMAX S900 (clone 9500 motherboard) and I would love to install debian linux on it. I am able to access the OF prompt through the serial port from my intel lin

Re: Will Debian run on a PowerMac 6100 (nubus)?

2000-02-07 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
No, at this time it can't be done. Debian will probably support using the mkLinux kernel at some point, but that's not what you mean; the monolithic kernel will not support NuBus for a long time, if ever. On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 01:31:20PM +1000, Terence Chew wrote: > Will Debian run on the Powe

Will Debian run on a PowerMac 6100 (nubus)?

2000-02-07 Thread Terence Chew
Will Debian run on the PowerMac 6100/66? I used to run mkLinux on it but would like to use the IPChains features in Kernel 2.2. Has anyone successfully installed and run Debian on this powermac? if so, please provide me with some instructions on how. Thanks in advance, Terence Chew