Re: powerbookG3 boot problem

2000-06-07 Thread Stephen Judd
on 8/6/00 12:58 pm, Daniel Jacobowitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 08:42:01PM -0500, Josh wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have installed Debian on my G3 Powerbook's 4 gig expansion bay hard >> drive. (I have some experience with Debian, I successfully installed >> the m68k port

Re: powerbookG3 boot problem

2000-06-07 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 08:42:01PM -0500, Josh wrote: > Hello, > > I have installed Debian on my G3 Powerbook's 4 gig expansion bay hard > drive. (I have some experience with Debian, I successfully installed > the m68k port on my Mac IIci) > I installed Debian over the net, and everything seemed

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Chris Baker
Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [snip..] > > Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > yes you need a COMPLETE *REAL* 4MB Finder. > > I have removed the "This is a Emergency Boot Floppy System only" alert box > from > a MacOS 8.1 Emergency floppy system folder and added the Bo

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Andre Berger
[snip..] Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > yes you need a COMPLETE *REAL* 4MB Finder. I have removed the "This is a Emergency Boot Floppy System only" alert box from a MacOS 8.1 Emergency floppy system folder and added the BootX 1.2.2 Extension plus a kernel image. The whole thing is a

Re: Linux/PPC: RS232 with new PowerBook.

2000-06-07 Thread David Brown
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 08:13:35AM -0700, David Brown wrote: > On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 07:12:50PM +1000, Brendan J Simon wrote: > The keyspan device works quite well under MacOS. Drivers would have to be > writen for it to work under Linux. It would probably take some work > negotiating with Keys

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Olaf Grewe
>On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 7, 2000, Olaf Grewe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Is recompiling XFree86 4 really that straightforward? The only things I >> >ever compiled needed only make/make install. >> >> XFree needs >> >> make World >> -- have a cup of coffe

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Wed, Jun 7, 2000, Olaf Grewe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is recompiling XFree86 4 really that straightforward? The only things I > >ever compiled needed only make/make install. > > XFree needs > > make World > -- have a cup of coffee > -

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Olaf Grewe
Ben, I know, this gets more and more a 'compile for dummies' but I hope that you can still bear it. > > > > >Is recompiling XFree86 4 really that straightforward? The only things I > >ever compiled needed only make/make install. > > XFree needs The source rpm from Howarth contains lots of .patc

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, Jun 7, 2000, Olaf Grewe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is recompiling XFree86 4 really that straightforward? The only things I >ever compiled needed only make/make install. XFree needs make World -- have a cup of coffee -- have another once -- get some rest -- watch TV and eventuall

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Olaf Grewe
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Howarth RPMs are at ftp://devel.linuxppc.org/users/howarth. The complete > support for the Pismo (including palette fixes) was added only last week, > I don't know if your RPMs already have it. What could probably be done to > make sure the "a

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 04:53:31PM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote: > > Ok, I really like to know what MacOS Versions remove that blessing, or > what ever is the trigger. No Problems here so far. Can you forward such > stufff to me? all versions of macos since 7.5. (that is all we ever worked with) as f

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Olaf Hering
On Wed, Jun 07, Ethan Benson wrote: > > And please: Don't make it unmaintainable with the Apple_Bootstrap type. > > Appfle_HFS is the correct type. > > Please don't create problems for yourself, Apple_Bootstrap is the > correct type. using an HFS partition will only cause you problems and > pa

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 04:00:18PM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote: > > Copy it to a HFS Partition, it should be a active Systemfolder. If not, > open it, move the Finder to the Desktop, close the folder window, drop > the Finder on the folder icon. The Finder ist only be there to fool > MacOS. It is nev

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Olaf Hering
On Wed, Jun 07, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 03:35:17PM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote: > > > > I can't solve that /proc /kern thing, its a topic for l-k. > > more like a flamewar... ;-) > > [snip] > > > The support database is nearly empty, for the outside world. I have some > > en

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 03:35:17PM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote: > > I can't solve that /proc /kern thing, its a topic for l-k. more like a flamewar... ;-) [snip] > The support database is nearly empty, for the outside world. I have some > entries in german, these will be translated and be availabl

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Olaf Hering
On Wed, Jun 07, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > SuSE wrote an extremely obfuscated shell script to try and figure this > > > out, > > > > Cool! And SuSE's a good company that releases things like this as OSS/DFSG > > compliant, > > right? Where can I get it and test it on my machine? (Nothing ob

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, Jun 7, 2000, Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >BenH has told me that he has fixed /dev/nvram so it really does work >now, but nvsetenv is unaware of the new nvram format (which differs >from oldworld's) so all it does is corrupt your nvram. there is >however a new tool `nvtool' whi

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 08:22:59AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > machines. fortunatly you don't need to set the boot-device at all on > > newworlds if you use IDE disks (the defaults will do just fine) > > Right, and newworlds don't use quik, right? So what's the probem? Is there > a way

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Josh Huber
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 02:35:04PM +0200, Olaf Grewe wrote: > Hi Michel > > >Look at /etc/X11, especially the files X and Xserver there. > > > That's my point: From my x86-Linux experience, I used to make ln -s > /usr/X11../AnyXServer /etc/X11/X to change from one X server to another. > With debia

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Olaf Grewe
Hi Michel >Look at /etc/X11, especially the files X and Xserver there. > That's my point: From my x86-Linux experience, I used to make ln -s /usr/X11../AnyXServer /etc/X11/X to change from one X server to another. With debian-powerpc I had to change an entry in one of the files located in /etc/X11

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Eric Deveaud
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Olaf Grewe wrote: > > > > >Yep, you can alienate those RPMs or try my tarballs: > > > >http://n.ethz.ch/student/download/XFree86/ > > > I'm afraid that link is broken... it seem's to be it's currently pointing to the tarb

Re: Why yaboot is NOT for oldworld macs, Oldworld owners please read! (was Re: StarMax and yaboot...)

2000-06-07 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Okay, I've clearly bitten off more than I can chew. But let's give this a try... Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > Ethan Benson wrote: > > > because there is no way to find out that > > > /dev/hda3 == /yucky/openfirmware/device/path/ata/@0:0 > > > > > >

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, Jun 7, 2000, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Have you fixed DashedBresenhamLines and other accel problems? No, I didn't work on the accel stuff at all.

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 7, 2000, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Yep, you can alienate those RPMs or try my tarballs: > > > >http://n.ethz.ch/student/download/XFree86/ > > Howarth RPMs are at ftp://devel.linuxppc.org/users/howarth. The complete > support for t

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, Jun 7, 2000, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Yep, you can alienate those RPMs or try my tarballs: > >http://n.ethz.ch/student/download/XFree86/ Howarth RPMs are at ftp://devel.linuxppc.org/users/howarth. The complete support for the Pismo (including palette fixes) was added only

Re: Installing on StarMax 3000/200

2000-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 11:37:50AM +0100, Stephen Pickering wrote: > Hi, > > I finally got round to trying to install potato onto a StarMax I've got. I > downloaded the latest boot, root & driver images for the floppies and used > Winimage to create the boot disk and rawrite (tried 1.3 & 2) to mak

Re: Oldword PowerPC G3 doesn't want to boot from the IDE disk

2000-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 02:46:52PM +0400, Alexandr R. wrote: > Hi! > Could anyone give me a hint why my oldword PowerPC G3 doesn't want to boot > from the IDE disk? > This is the setup: > > boot-device = ata-int/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 or boot-device = ide/[EMAIL > PROTECTED],0 or boot-device

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
Olaf Grewe wrote: > btw: I had some trouble to figure out how to change the X server since the > initial configuration made by debian did not work with symbolic links from > X to /usr/X11.. Is this intentional? Look at /etc/X11, especially the files X and Xserver there. > I'm not that enlighted

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
Olaf Grewe wrote: > >Yep, you can alienate those RPMs or try my tarballs: > > > >http://n.ethz.ch/student/download/XFree86/ > > > I'm afraid that link is broken... Sure - in the meantime, I've found my head again :) http://n.ethz.ch/student/daenzerm/download/XFree86/ Michel -- UNIX is like

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Olaf Grewe
> >Yep, you can alienate those RPMs or try my tarballs: > >http://n.ethz.ch/student/download/XFree86/ > I'm afraid that link is broken... > >X 4 is faster than Xpmac. Even if not, cutting edge technology is always worth a try ;) > Olaf

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Olaf Grewe
Hi Ben, thanks for answering that fast. From what I've seen yet, I really appreciate your work. >>- getting sound, AirPort and IrDA to work > >Heh, one after each other ;) All those are on my to-do list, but if you >want to help... You know, having a PB makes one greedy ;) As for the help: I'd

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > >- a debian-package for Xpmac.rage128.revX > > Better: A debian package for XF4 with Howarth patches ;) (works fine on > the pismo now) Yep, you can alienate those RPMs or try my tarballs: http://n.ethz.ch/student/download/XFree86/ X 4 is faster than Xpmac. M

Oldword PowerPC G3 doesn't want to boot from the IDE disk

2000-06-07 Thread Alexandr R.
Hi! Could anyone give me a hint why my oldword PowerPC G3 doesn't want to boot from the IDE disk?This is the setup:   boot-device = ata-int/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 or boot-device = ide/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 or boot-device = ide0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0, cause ata-int,ide,ide0 are aliases for IDE in OF

Re: PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, Jun 7, 2000, Olaf Grewe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I just installed Debian quite successfully on my PowerBook (FW/12G/256M, >kernel 2.2.15pre14-ben1). Even if it runs fine, I feel that there might be >room for improvment. So if you have any hints and tips, I'd be glad get >mail from you.

Installing on StarMax 3000/200

2000-06-07 Thread Stephen Pickering
Hi, I finally got round to trying to install potato onto a StarMax I've got. I downloaded the latest boot, root & driver images for the floppies and used Winimage to create the boot disk and rawrite (tried 1.3 & 2) to make the root & driver disks. Booting from floppy proceeds well, floppy icon ch

PowerBook (FW) - hints and tips

2000-06-07 Thread Olaf Grewe
Hi, I just installed Debian quite successfully on my PowerBook (FW/12G/256M, kernel 2.2.15pre14-ben1). Even if it runs fine, I feel that there might be room for improvment. So if you have any hints and tips, I'd be glad get mail from you. Maybe there's a mailing list archive you can point me to.