Re: problems starting X

2000-11-24 Thread Donnell
I saw a couple things in your "Screen" section that should be changed. For the sake of argument, I will assume that you have at least 2MB of video RAM. That being said, here are my suggestions: 1. The "Virtual" line seems to be manadatory on a Mac. Without it, I experienced the flashing scre

Re: [Fwd: Program only runs when esd is unnice]

2000-11-24 Thread Kevin Puetz
On Friday 24 November 2000 11:06, Nick Bailey wrote: > A student of mine came up with this one. Can anybody see what's wrong > with it (I can't!) > > When playing a sinewave through esd on a PowerPC Debian System (A Mac > G4), the output is interrupted at random intervals. If esd is run "nice > -

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > >Ok, I don't see very much the point of saving fractions of watt on a > >desktop but... > > It can be more than fraction of watts when you put it all together, especially > in deep sleep. And multiply that by the number of machines out there.

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Takashi Oe
On 11/24/00 8:23 AM, Gabriel Paubert wrote: [...] > BTW: what is the minimum RAM to run Liunx/PPC these days ? My smallest > (quasi embedded) machines have 16Mb and I hope to keep these running for > at least 5 to 7 more years. 2.4.x runs reasonably well on a 8Mb machine here. Takashi Oe

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > >Ok, I don't see very much the point of saving fractions of watt on a > >desktop but... > > It can be more than fraction of watts when you put it all together, especially > in deep sleep. And multiply that by the number of machines out there...

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>Ok, I don't see very much the point of saving fractions of watt on a >desktop but... It can be more than fraction of watts when you put it all together, especially in deep sleep. And multiply that by the number of machines out there... Also, the Cube is sensitive to heat problems, having some po

[Fwd: Program only runs when esd is unnice]

2000-11-24 Thread Nick Bailey
A student of mine came up with this one. Can anybody see what's wrong with it (I can't!) When playing a sinewave through esd on a PowerPC Debian System (A Mac G4), the output is interrupted at random intervals. If esd is run "nice --5 esd" as root, the system will just about play uninterrupted.

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Yup. Almost all Apple recent machines can do power management in various > ways. Some can deep sleep (not only portables), all can switch off power > to some PCI devices & ASICs, some support turning off the CPU... Ok, I don't see very much t

Re: XFree4.0x and Pismo touchpad

2000-11-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>> Similar issues happen with things like mirroring & multihead. Some chips >> can do mirroring only (I have code for mach64 to do that), so in this >> case, a single ioctl is enough to enable/disable it. > >You have code for mirroring on mach64? Do share :-) Works with LT-G (wallstreet), not test

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>Could the recently added keventd thread be used for this? I don't like the >idea of adding kernel threads just for one thing. One kernel thread for >all relatively slow operations which may need a process context is >reasonable however. I'll investigate. >No, I thought the deep sleep modes were

Re: XFree4.0x and Pismo touchpad

2000-11-24 Thread Michael Schmitz
> >fblevel uses the PMU_IOC_SET_BACKLIGHT ioctl; unless the ix86 guys > >(and others) implement that one I don't see the point in adding fblevel to > >fbutils ? > > We need some new fbdev ioctls to handle backlight and other things like > video mirroring, etc... > > This is not simple. For exampl

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > using the SuSE rescue disk. No idea how SuSE copes with readonly root fs. > > It doesnt work per default, some guys did some hacks to the boot scripts > to have a readonly root fs. > Well, but most users want to story something on their hard drives so it Everybody seems to use hard disks fo

Re: xlibs-dev and libxaw-dev broken ...

2000-11-24 Thread Bastien Nocera
Quoting Michael Flaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello! > > Does anyone know when this bug will be fixed. I want to install > helixgnome but can't compile because installation of xlib6g-dev fails. > > Greets, > > mfl http://idorulabs.free.fr and http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc-0011/msg00140

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Bastien Nocera
Quoting Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >Hi, > > > >Seems like I missed a good part of the discussion... First reason I > >wanted apmd > >marked as x86 only, is because it is useless _now_ on power-pc. We have > a PMU, > >not an APM BIOS (ugh!), we have pmud not apmd. What is the poi

Re: install debian on a G3 (beige)

2000-11-24 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 10:18:57AM +0100, Gwenaël Piaser wrote: > I want to install a debian on a Power Mag G3 (old version, beige) > > (I've already install a debian on a PC without problem) PowerMacs are much more annoying to boot then PCs in many ways. > > I've followed all the instructions

xlibs-dev and libxaw-dev broken ...

2000-11-24 Thread Michael Flaig
Hello! Does anyone know when this bug will be fixed. I want to install helixgnome but can't compile because installation of xlib6g-dev fails. Greets, mfl -- Michael Flaig ... PROLinux

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>Hi, > >Seems like I missed a good part of the discussion... First reason I >wanted apmd >marked as x86 only, is because it is useless _now_ on power-pc. We have a PMU, >not an APM BIOS (ugh!), we have pmud not apmd. What is the point compiling it >for powerpc if it's not working and will probably

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Olaf Hering
On Thu, Nov 23, Michael Schmitz wrote: > The init scripts of all distributions but SuSE handle this just fine > (mount -n). At least SuSE seems to mount the root fs rw from the start, > which causes all sorts of pain if you want to boot into a RedHat system > using the SuSE rescue disk. No idea ho

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > We can "fix" that by either having the PMU driver on core99 continuously > send those infos via /dev/pmu without explicit request. It may also be > interesting to replace this by a kernel thread. That would allow more > flexibility in communic

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Michael Schmitz wrote: > The init scripts of all distributions but SuSE handle this just fine > (mount -n). At least SuSE seems to mount the root fs rw from the start, > which causes all sorts of pain if you want to boot into a RedHat system > using the SuSE rescue disk. No

Re: XFree4.0x and Pismo touchpad

2000-11-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>> Or fbutils. > >fblevel uses the PMU_IOC_SET_BACKLIGHT ioctl; unless the ix86 guys >(and others) implement that one I don't see the point in adding fblevel to >fbutils ? We need some new fbdev ioctls to handle backlight and other things like video mirroring, etc... This is not simple. For examp

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>> Not APM support exactly... simply support for the same interface. Just like >> powermacs have totally different sound systems and still use /dev/dsp. >> /proc/apm and /dev/apm_bios are so simple that it should be easy to convince >> any power management system to provide those API's. > >The in

Re: XFree4.0x and Pismo touchpad

2000-11-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>Argh - what I looked for was mousehack not mousemode, that's why I didn't >find it. > >We could perhaps even take fblevel out of pmud and add it to >powerpc-utils... does display brightness setting by fblevel also work with >other LCD displays on desktop machines? > > Michael Currently, t

Re: apmd and other archs

2000-11-24 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Adrian Cox wrote: > > Gabriel Paubert wrote: > > Because mount stats /etc/mtab and does not touch it if it finds that it is > > a symlink. But this has still problem, I just can't remember which ones. I > > know that I thought it would be great and had to go back to the sta

install debian on a G3 (beige)

2000-11-24 Thread Gwenaël Piaser
I want to install a debian on a Power Mag G3 (old version, beige) (I've already install a debian on a PC without problem) I've followed all the instructions for the installation handbook. First part of the installation works well (set up keyboard, partition, set up the clock, ect..) But I can

Re: problems starting X

2000-11-24 Thread W. Crowshaw
At 3:47 PM -0800 11/21/00, Donnell wrote: What do your device (Section "device") and screen (Section "screen") sections look like? Could you post them? Below is what the 'device' and 'screen' sections of XF86Config look like. As I said in another post, I have not altered this at all. One m