On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 01:19:49PM +1000, I wrote:
>On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:29:55PM -0700, ozymandias G desiderata wrote:
>>[...] However, it is very sad-making when my system keels over
>>dead with no warning because its battery has run dry. [...]
>
>pmud does attempt to issue a warning [...]
Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> AFAIK this is related to thermal management. Apparently you should
> leave it off for now. It doesn't harm my Pismo though.
I don't have thermal management enabled. FWIW, here's the .config:
#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#
# CONF
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Could you resync again ? Sleep is supposed to work with my current
> kernels on the TiBook, if it's still locking up your box, some
> investigations will be needed.
rsync as of about 33 minutes ago doesn't work for me.
> Note that if you are u
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:29:55PM -0700, ozymandias G desiderata wrote:
>I'm running sid on my TiBook with vmlinux-2.4.6benh20010705 as my
>kernel. Overall, I'm pretty psyched with how well everything works --
>my system is noticeably peppier under Linux than it is under even
>MacOS 9.1. However,
> Well, I guess it's a problem with the S3 Trio driver, can you disable it
> in your config ?
>
> Ben.
Thanks for the help. I disabled that and something else after a second
attempt. Then everything compiled fine. Except that I was running the
2.4.6-pre8 kernel and X crashed on me again, but I s
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:29:55PM -0700, ozymandias G desiderata wrote:
> I've
>
> 1) created the apm_bios node in /dev
> 2) modprobe'd apm_emu, and
> 3) I've got apmd and apm-sleep installed.
>
> Yet, sadly, I cannot get the system to go to sleep, nor can I get any
> battery monitors to t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ozymandias G desiderata) writes:
> I'm running sid on my TiBook with vmlinux-2.4.6benh20010705 as my
> kernel. Overall, I'm pretty psyched with how well everything works
One of my friends (a math guy) who has a passing familiarity with
systems like GNU/Linux, upon seeing my TiB
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 04:29:10PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:16:03PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
>
> > BTW, I do use procmail, and thanks to that I didn't get duplicate
> > messages from you because you didn't press "L" to list respond.
>
> your going to make my .shitli
Hey, all.
I'm running sid on my TiBook with vmlinux-2.4.6benh20010705 as my
kernel. Overall, I'm pretty psyched with how well everything works --
my system is noticeably peppier under Linux than it is under even
MacOS 9.1. However, it is very sad-making when my system keels over
dead with no warn
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:16:03PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> BTW, I do use procmail, and thanks to that I didn't get duplicate
> messages from you because you didn't press "L" to list respond.
your going to make my .shitlist very quickly little man.
i DO and DID use L to reply to your mail, you
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 04:13:50PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 04:49:11PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> > If we're going to go to the extreme of disregarding htmlized posts,
> > then we might as well just reject then from being sent to the list.
>
> thats a good idea, if the
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 03:56:16PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 03:37:09PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I think we should be sending rtf mail everywhere. It's an
> > open standard, it hasn't been extended in a long time, and it has more
> > features than html
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 04:49:11PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> If we're going to go to the extreme of disregarding htmlized posts,
> then we might as well just reject then from being sent to the list.
thats a good idea, if the list masters were not so busy with other
things i would ask them about d
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:06:11PM -0500, Charles Sebold wrote:
> simple, stupid" (the stupid is not aimed at you or him, it's just a
> saying). Besides, sometimes you don't have X11. I use my system as
> much from terminals as I do at the console. I'm doing this in a tty
> even as we speak.
i
Hi,
From what I understood, the current ld.so breakage is not worth a new
upload in Ben Collins' opinion. And this is driving me crazy. This bug
has been present for over a month now.
Would somebody care making a new version of the libc6 with the patch here:
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 03:37:09PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
>
> Actually, I think we should be sending rtf mail everywhere. It's an
> open standard, it hasn't been extended in a long time, and it has more
> features than html.
hey bozo, mail is about plain text not about features.
--
Ethan B
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 03:52:44PM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 02:31:55PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 01:26:17PM -0400, Noah John wrote:
> > [ -- text/html -- ]
> >
> > *plonk*
> There you go, no more complaints about html mail. :)
i have no inte
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:06:11PM -0500, Charles Sebold wrote:
> On 18 Tammuz 5761, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> > I really don't understand what the problem with html mail. It was a
> > pain until I figured out how to get mutt to use links or lynx to
> > output it as text... but now everything is peachy.
On 18 Tammuz 5761, Mike Fedyk wrote:
>> 1. Didn't see a URL, so I guess we'll have to check Slashdot
>> ourselves.
>
> He gave it in his next message a couple minutes later.
Didn't get that one yet here, otherwise I wouldn't have said
anything about that.
>> 3. Perhaps you could tell MSN
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 02:31:55PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 01:26:17PM -0400, Noah John wrote:
> [ -- text/html -- ]
>
> *plonk*
Add to .muttrc:
set implicit_autoview = yes
-OR-
auto_view text/html
-AND- run:
apt-get install lynx
-OR-
apt-get install links
There
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 04:59:08PM -0500, Charles Sebold wrote:
> On 18 Tammuz 5761, Noah John wrote:
>
> > check out this site.? it was posted on slashdot 7.9.01
>
> 1. Didn't see a URL, so I guess we'll have to check Slashdot
> ourselves.
>
He gave it in his next message a couple minutes
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 01:26:17PM -0400, Noah John wrote:
[ -- text/html -- ]
*plonk*
--
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
pgpmacPFG6RNg.pgp
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On 18 Tammuz 5761, Noah John wrote:
> check out this site. it was posted on slashdot 7.9.01
1. Didn't see a URL, so I guess we'll have to check Slashdot
ourselves.
2. Since it isn't September, I assume you mean 7 was the month, 9 was
the day. *smiles*
3. Perhaps you could tell MSN
Can anyone please point me toward some documentation that shows which G3/G4 upgrades
are supported under DebianPPC?
I am looking to possbly upgrade a ppc 7500, and a
B&W G3, and a PowerBook G3. I was under the impression afetr looking over
the list archives that if OF can recognize it, the
check out this site. it was posted on slashdot 7.9.01
-noahGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Heh. this is the site:
http://www.xiph.org/~jack/ibook/
:P oopsie
-noahGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> > Yup. I need to look at what apmd does and if it makes sense to
> > provide support for it or not, but in the meantime, there's
> > probably no need for it. That should be confirmed however.
> >
> > Ben.
>
> OK, it seems fair for me to resume my work on pmud then. I wasn't sure
> if pmud was
> ever heard of macosx? call that crippled?? u can even install x windows if u
Does it come with ext2 or reiserfs support? Can it cleanly install on UFS
now?
'crippled' related to filesystem support in this context (though Ethan
might find other areas where he'd call MacOS X crippled, I'm sure :
> >
> >Thanks; I still see a potential problem with MMU context allocation here:
> >Paul's new code uses a bitmap to keep track of contexts in use
> >(context_map). MOL ignores this bit and just keeps allocating contexts by
> >relying on next_mmu_context to be unused (which it should be, most
> >of
ever heard of macosx? call that crippled?? u can even install x windows if u don't like the aqua crap :P
me like macos for stuff, but like linux for proggin (and stuff)
noahGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>
>Thanks; I still see a potential problem with MMU context allocation here:
>Paul's new code uses a bitmap to keep track of contexts in use
>(context_map). MOL ignores this bit and just keeps allocating contexts by
>relying on next_mmu_context to be unused (which it should be, most
>of the time),
Thanks for everyone's emails and responses on this. After I checked out the
http://www.penguinppc.org/ site per Evan's advice, I was able to understand
the differnce between the various bootloaders, and once I understood what
"open firmware" is, the installation documents
(http://www.debian.org/rel
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
and it implements /proc/apm for battery infos, but the infos there are
That part was actually fairly easy IIRC (did that for 2.2.19).
Well, the 2400/3400/3500 is not so easy, especially without the
floats in kernel ;) I'd be glad to have some testers with these
> >MOL rsync? Do share ...
>
> rsync:
>
> rsync -vcaz zorn.theophys.kth.se::mol mol-rsync
>
> BitKeeper:
>
> bk clone bk://zorn.theophys.kth.se:5000 mol-bk
Thanks; I still see a potential problem with MMU context allocation here:
Paul's new code uses a bitmap to keep track of cont
>MOL rsync? Do share ...
rsync:
rsync -vcaz zorn.theophys.kth.se::mol mol-rsync
BitKeeper:
bk clone bk://zorn.theophys.kth.se:5000 mol-bk
> >That part was actually fairly easy IIRC (did that for 2.2.19).
>
> Well, the 2400/3400/3500 is not so easy, especially without the
> floats in kernel ;) I'd be glad to have some testers with these
Yep, that gave me a headache for a while as well (that code was never
tested on 3400 etc though,
Hello Samuel!
Ethan Benson schrieb:
>
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 04:14:44PM -0500, samuel rose wrote:
> > I've got two machines. One is a PPC 7500 with an internal 1 Gb drive,
> > and an external 4 Gb scsi drive. I've also got a B&W G3 300mhz with a
> > 6Gb internal drive.
> >
> > On the Blue and
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Eric Deveaud wrote:
> let's see.
> yoko:~ > grep CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE /usr/src/linux/.config
> CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
>
> ok, I clean rebuild.
thank's it solve the problem.
Eric
--
ED : (Intel) ne fait que des circuits electroniques.
ALG: et quasiment d'un seu
> >AFAIK the airport unload hack is no longer required with 2.4 kernels
> >(what's with 2.2.19?). If Ben says 2.4 sleep support on Core99 is stable,
> >I'll just have to check the kernel version number and either shutdown or
> >sleep. If someone backports the Core99 sleep code to 2.2, the better.
>
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >with benh kernel, when I mouse select something, all caracters turns as
> >strange hierogliphs.
> >and paste gives the same hierogliphs.
>
> You probably have VGA console enabled. You should disable it and do a
> clan rebuild of the kernel (bac
>
> no, the Linux kernel does not support Apple's IEEE1394 hardware yet.
> much less booting.
As I plan using a CD/RW on ieee1394 (I thought it's one standard),
where to look on the differences between IEEE1394 and Apple's IEEE1394?
--
mfg
Georg Koss
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Jul 09, Eric Deveaud wrote:
> I just finished to rsync and compile benh kernel for my pismo(thank's
> ben for your work) and I notice a problem wille using gpm, with my usb
> external 3
> buttons mouse
> as I spend a lot of time in console mode, I eavily use gpm.
> with 2.2.19 everything
>
>I just finished to rsync and compile benh kernel for my pismo(thank's
>ben for your work) and I notice a problem wille using gpm, with my usb
>external 3
>buttons mouse
>as I spend a lot of time in console mode, I eavily use gpm.
>with 2.2.19 everything is OK
>with benh kernel, when I mouse sele
Hi,
I just finished to rsync and compile benh kernel for my pismo(thank's
ben for your work) and I notice a problem wille using gpm, with my usb external
3
buttons mouse
as I spend a lot of time in console mode, I eavily use gpm.
with 2.2.19 everything is OK
with benh kernel, when I mous
>
>> and it implements /proc/apm for battery infos, but the infos there are
>
>That part was actually fairly easy IIRC (did that for 2.2.19).
Well, the 2400/3400/3500 is not so easy, especially without the
floats in kernel ;) I'd be glad to have some testers with these
machines to tell me if /proc
I believe Yves meant to send this to the list.
--- Begin Message ---
Colin Walters([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 02:38:56PM -0400:
> Matthias Güter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > i'm about to buy a new ibook (www.apple.com/ibook) and i'm not
> > planning to use neiter macos9 nor maco
> >Regarding APM emulation: does that make apmd work on Powermacs, or will
> >pmud still be necessary?
>
> APM emulation is not a replacement for pmud. It doesn't emulate all APM
> messages in /dev/apm_bios, only the strict minimum to get apps like X
> properly cleanup before suspend and restore
>
>AFAIK the airport unload hack is no longer required with 2.4 kernels
>(what's with 2.2.19?). If Ben says 2.4 sleep support on Core99 is stable,
>I'll just have to check the kernel version number and either shutdown or
>sleep. If someone backports the Core99 sleep code to 2.2, the better.
2.2.19
>I finally got 2.4.6-pre8 from penguinppc.org (or wherever it is they
tell you
>rsync from) to work on my machine. Funny thing, though, is that the console
>is bright ugly green, until I get into X. So when I'm booting, it is green,
>with other neon colors in the console that make it impossible
>Thanks for correcting me. I shouldn't take Ethan's word on kernel support
>:-)
>
>Regarding APM emulation: does that make apmd work on Powermacs, or will
>pmud still be necessary?
APM emulation is not a replacement for pmud. It doesn't emulate all APM
messages in /dev/apm_bios, only the strict m
> I finally got 2.4.6-pre8 from penguinppc.org (or wherever it is they tell you
> rsync from) to work on my machine. Funny thing, though, is that the console
No idea where you rsynced from - the docs on penguinppc.org say to use
source.mvista.com::linuxppc_2_4 ...
> Is the 2.4.6-pre8 kernel the s
> > Also, does sleep work with older kernels ? (you have the proper hacks
> > to pmud scripts for sleep to work properly on core99) ?
>
> Apropos... are we including the latest/best/brightest of these scripts
> in Debian?
If someone tells me which version of the pmud pwrctl scripts is the
best/bri
Hello everyone,
I finally got 2.4.6-pre8 from penguinppc.org (or wherever it is they tell you
rsync from) to work on my machine. Funny thing, though, is that the console
is bright ugly green, until I get into X. So when I'm booting, it is green,
with other neon colors in the console that make i
Oops. Sorry, I sent this to the wrong list Won't happen
again
Russell
On Monday 09 July 2001 08:43, Russell Hires wrote:
> On Saturday 07 July 2001 19:02, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> > It seems like this is a good time to post this URL:
> >
> > http://people.debian.org/%7Ebortz//SGML-HOWTO/potato/how
> >Won't currently work (with Linux). Firewire support on PPC is a pretty
> >recent addition, and won't work with Apple hardware yet (or so Ethan
> >claims).
>
> It works, at least part of it, with my current rsync kernel.
Thanks for correcting me. I shouldn't take Ethan's word on kernel support
On Saturday 07 July 2001 19:02, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> It seems like this is a good time to post this URL:
>
> http://people.debian.org/%7Ebortz//SGML-HOWTO/potato/howto.html
I appreciate this very much. The info here was very helpful.
> Stephane's HOWTO remains the single best introduction to t
> > But, just for fun, I duplicated the command you sent me, and the output I
> > get is:
> Doh! First you have to solve your problem, then try the new
> command! Try ejecting the floppy, it sounds like a "hardware"
> problem. Like maybe the kernel missed an interrupt or the floppy
> drive is s
>> Does anyone have experience with this?
>>
>> I plan to usa an external FireWire disk w. my G4 at home, as well as
>> in a studio.
>
>Won't currently work (with Linux). Firewire support on PPC is a pretty
>recent addition, and won't work with Apple hardware yet (or so Ethan
>claims).
It works, a
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:43:31PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> > Does anyone have experience with this?
> >
> > I plan to usa an external FireWire disk w. my G4 at home, as well as
> > in a studio.
>
> Won't currently work (with Linux). Firewire support on PPC is a pretty
> recent addition, an
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Also, does sleep work with older kernels ? (you have the proper hacks
> to pmud scripts for sleep to work properly on core99) ?
Apropos... are we including the latest/best/brightest of these scripts
in Debian?
--
David N. Welton
Free Software
> Does anyone have experience with this?
>
> I plan to usa an external FireWire disk w. my G4 at home, as well as
> in a studio.
Won't currently work (with Linux). Firewire support on PPC is a pretty
recent addition, and won't work with Apple hardware yet (or so Ethan
claims).
Michael
Hi!
Does anyone have experience with this?
I plan to usa an external FireWire disk w. my G4 at home, as well as
in a studio.
>From what I've heard ProTools is really pecky about having the
disks formated in a special way.
I was wondering if it's possible to have linux partitions on the same
dri
Hi again!
I am trying to get GNOME to start up but It says error, XF86_NONE.
WHat do I do? Go easy I am a newbie but learning more everyday. :)
Patrick
WOW! I got Debian, it's neat, except I can't remember what I did to get
the mouse to work. I installed it, but didn't do the mkofboot command
right. But I got it this time, and need to know how to get a
USB kensington wheel mouse to work. I know it has something to do with
GPM data. Maybe some
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> Note that if you are using DRI in X, you should also make sure
> you enable APM emulation (a new option in my kernels), and that
> you create /dev/apm_bios
>
> mknod /dev/apm_bios c 10 134
This is Debian, so just cd /dev; MAKEDEV apm :)
--
Earthling Michel Dä
Hi !
I rsynced the 2.4-benh from penguinppc the last 3 days and compiled many
kernels that had a problem with dmasound.
Driver initialize:
dmasound_pmac: Awacs/Screamer Codec Mfct: 1 Rev 3
PowerMac Screamer DMA sound driver rev 016 installed
Core driver edition 01.06 : PowerMac Built-in Sound d
Russell Hires wrote:
>
> > what command did you use?
> >
> > dd if=root.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=2880 conv=sync
>
> Well, I used the one listed in the main install doc:
> dd if=file of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync
> I even preserved the whitespace. Except, I replaced the word "file" with
Colin Walters wrote:
>
> Is anyone else out there using a recentish benh 2.4.6 kernel with a
> TiBook? 2.4.4 from a while ago worked fine for me for pretty much
> everything, but 2.4.6 kills the machine when I close the lid.
AFAIK this is related to thermal management. Apparently you should leav
>Is anyone else out there using a recentish benh 2.4.6 kernel with a
>TiBook? 2.4.4 from a while ago worked fine for me for pretty much
>everything, but 2.4.6 kills the machine when I close the lid.
>
>I would just stick with 2.4.4, except that it locks the machine when I
>try to build the Debian
On Mon, Jul 09, Russell Hires wrote:
> Then, nothing. I still hear it just spinning...I now have two "dd" processes
> that I can't kill. :-)
Use a different kernel, loop was broken. 2.4.6 should be fine.
http://www.penguinppc.org/~benh/
Gruss Olaf
--
$ man clone
BUGS
Main feature n
> what command did you use?
>
> dd if=root.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=2880 conv=sync
Well, I used the one listed in the main install doc:
dd if=file of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync
I even preserved the whitespace. Except, I replaced the word "file" with
root.bin, of course.
But, just fo
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 03:28:55AM -0400, Russell Hires wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> On my Beige G3/266, I'm trying to make an actual boot-floppy (because I
> happened upon an x86 machine that I want to put debian on). But I'm stuck. I
> hear the disk running in the drive, but it's been doing that
Hey everyone,
On my Beige G3/266, I'm trying to make an actual boot-floppy (because I
happened upon an x86 machine that I want to put debian on). But I'm stuck. I
hear the disk running in the drive, but it's been doing that for at least 6
hours now. I can't kill the dd process I started to make
Is anyone else out there using a recentish benh 2.4.6 kernel with a
TiBook? 2.4.4 from a while ago worked fine for me for pretty much
everything, but 2.4.6 kills the machine when I close the lid.
I would just stick with 2.4.4, except that it locks the machine when I
try to build the Debian boot-f
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