Re: PowerMac 7200-platinumfb display problem

2006-08-19 Thread Tomasz Grzegurzko
Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Thursday 27 July 2006 03:35, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote: http://people.debian.org/~wouter/d-i/powerpc-miboot/daily/ I tried this image today (27-Jul-2006) and suffered the same fate.. The image from there from the 23rd of July worked for me on a g3 oldworld, so

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 18 August 2006 22:49, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:56:52PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Do you think it will be ready for inclusion in etch at release time? Hard to say, since Piotr and I have no deadline... :) I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you mean,

Re: Quik and atyfb

2006-08-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 11 August 2006 09:33, Simon Stapleton wrote: On 10 Aug 2006, at 22:19, Holger Levsen wrote: Yes, just using video=atyfb causes the same issue. There is a difference somewhere in the way quik configures stuff and the way BootX/miBoot do it, using video=atyfb (+ all the various

Re: Quik and atyfb

2006-08-19 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
Hi, On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 09:33:03AM +0200, Simon Stapleton wrote: Yes, just using video=atyfb causes the same issue. There is a difference somewhere in the way quik configures stuff and the way BootX/miBoot do it, using video=atyfb (+ all the various gubbins) from a BootX / miBoot

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
Hi, On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 01:30:20PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: On Friday 18 August 2006 22:49, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:56:52PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Do you think it will be ready for inclusion in etch at release time? Hard to say, since Piotr and I have

Re: Quik and atyfb

2006-08-19 Thread Simon Stapleton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19 Aug 2006, at 13:43, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 09:33:03AM +0200, Simon Stapleton wrote: Yes, just using video=atyfb causes the same issue. There is a difference somewhere in the way quik configures stuff and the

Re: Quik and atyfb

2006-08-19 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 02:41:40PM +0200, Simon Stapleton wrote: On 19 Aug 2006, at 13:43, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: It does not surprise me at all. It is not the fault of Quik, it is simply that OF is completely broken on OldWorld PowerMacs. Those machines were never intended to be booted from

Re: Quik and atyfb

2006-08-19 Thread Simon Stapleton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19 Aug 2006, at 14:46, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: All that's missing for Wallstreets to boot from quik with accelerated video, it would seem, is a little video hardware initialisation; that step _should_ be derivable from the ATI documentation.

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Aurélien, please don't cc: me - I'm subscribed to both lists, it's against the mailing lists code of conduct (something you agree on when joining debian..) and it's annoying. Thanks. On Saturday 19 August 2006 14:05, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you mean,

Re: Quik and atyfb

2006-08-19 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:03:31PM +0200, Simon Stapleton wrote: Aye, agreed, although I'm not sure that it's _all_ done in the ROM, ISTR from poking about in the miBoot / BootX source a while back that it does a certain amount of video configuration itself. I wonder what OSX's BootX

Re: Quik and atyfb

2006-08-19 Thread Simon Stapleton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19 Aug 2006, at 15:33, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:03:31PM +0200, Simon Stapleton wrote: Aye, agreed, although I'm not sure that it's _all_ done in the ROM, ISTR from poking about in the miBoot / BootX source a while back

Re: Quik and atyfb

2006-08-19 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:43:06PM +0200, Simon Stapleton wrote: Yeah, I was looking directly at pre_boot_ppc.c, which seems to be doing a bunch of register writes on ati cards. Apple's BootX seems to do pretty much everything through the forth interpreter, which makes it a bit tricksy

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:15:21PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: please don't cc: me - I'm subscribed to both lists, it's against the mailing lists code of conduct (something you agree on when joining debian..) and it's annoying. Thanks. Sure, no problem and I apologise, which leads me to: how

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 03:15:21PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: I am also really afraid to interact with Frans, because I would rather not be treated as dipshit like Sven was. :( Frans is a nice guy. Just don't constantly throw dipshit like Sven did and neither Frans nor anybody else will

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 19 August 2006 16:17, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Sure, no problem and I apologise, which leads me to: how would I know you are subscribed? ;) Thanks for caring! :) Of course you cannot know if someone is subscribed. But you can know that the default is not to cc: people and

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Harold Johnson
Does anyone know of an online tutorial, designed for laymen, on how to install and use miBoot? I'm tech-savvy but somewhat obtuse when it comes to compiling and all that, but I can get through the task (which is kind of fun, actually) once I have enough of a starting point. Unfortunately, I'm not

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
Hi Harold, First things first, could you stop Cc'ing the bug-report which goes to debian-boot@lists.debian.org and just reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, you will do me a favor. :) Because we are (actually, I am) not welcome in debian-installer. I have virtually (because I believe they can

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Harold Johnson
My apologies for cc'ing everyone my fast few posts; thanks for making me aware I was doing that...This message is just to let you know that, deadline or none, it's quite alright with me however long it takes for you to produce the miBoot solution. In the meantime, I can continue using BootX -- not

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 19, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Harold Johnson wrote: http://people.debian.org/~wouter/d-i/powerpc-miboot/daily/powerpc/ floppy/ Still, I have to figure out how to make the physical floppies out of these images. That I'm sure I can figure out, but it's unclear to me whether they are

Re: PowerMac 7200-platinumfb display problem

2006-08-19 Thread Tomasz Grzegurzko
Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Tomasz, On Saturday 19 August 2006 08:25, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote: I've just tried three more series from powerpc-miboot. The daily (18-Aug-2006), the beta3 and 24-Jul-2006 (as I couldn't find 23 July) and all failed sigh. It is still the same problem; it cannot

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 19, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Harold Johnson wrote: In the meantime, I can continue using BootX -- not a real elegant solution, IMHO, but it works. Hi Harold, What magic did you have to use to get BootX to boot a 2.6.16 kernel for you? Thanks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL