en't looked
at recent images, but I know in the past the boot process was
different on CD compared to after the install.
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ot;ATI Rage128 display support")
you would need FB_ATY ("ATI Mach64 display support") for that model.
That's what I remember from the last time I booted mine up. I have a
roughly equivalent model. However, I haven't tried a new kernel on
mine in quite some time. There have been com
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> > If we manage to get it working, we will probably have to also figure
> > out how to tell which systems support this feature. The via-pmu
> > dri
on the ones that are too old to run
Linux due to having no MMU like the Portable and PB100, although
the PMU is attached to the VIA differently on those anyway so the
driver wouldn't work without some significant changes).
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sn't any way to make this work on your system.
The hardware targeted by this program was only in desktop models,
and not all desktop Macs have it either. That chip was introduced
late in the m68k time frame and discontinued about the time Apple
switched to AGP video cards. That iMac would be too new to still
have Cuda and would instead also have PMU just like the PowerBook.
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ff anymore ever since
> the USB thumbdrive thing was invented?
I know this thread is old, but I wanted to give some input. The original
optical drives in the early G5 systems don't officially support DVD-RW.
I'm pretty sure I got mine to read some of them, but it's unreliable.
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pasted between the two drivers these days anyway.
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you're there. It's only
three floppy images.
I'll admit it's hard to find anything on that page.
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of PowerBook G3 are oldworld. Any
system made after the introduction of the iMac (the first newworld system)
would generally be newworld, such as the Blue White PowerMac G3. As far
as I know, the basic key is that built-in USB ports equals newworld.
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that the X server only needs explicit configuration for the
layout of the keyboard rather than how to access it.
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your
mouse. You have it configured to use /dev/psaux, but I think a USB
mouse shows up at /dev/input/mice. I'm sure someone will correct me
if that is wrong.
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to work, as I haven't found references to running anything other
than Linux under qemu.
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Basilisk II won't run Mac OS 9, from what I read.
As far as I know, Basilisk II is an m68k Mac emulator rather than ppc. It
sounds like the application needed is ppc native.
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probably do need to create a partition table as you mentioned.
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MacOS didn't use mach for its kernel.
After more thinking about this, booting OS9 will most likely require
the driver partitions to be available as you asked earlier in the
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drive
While substituting drive for the proper device, most
likely /dev/hda or /dev/sda.
If that doesn't work, try this instead:
/sbin/parted -s drive print
This should show at least some Apple_Driver* partitions
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architecture, while the
Wallstreet models were all oldworld. This is the reason for
all the extra steps. Debian natively supports yours, but not
the model in the original message. The OpenFirmware version
in the Wallstreet doesn't support yaboot.
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card, but I
highly suspect that it's just an issue that the installer doesn't
handle your SCSI card correctly. More details about your configuration
might help.
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have not tried this myself and I have no idea if
it will work. I do not keep up to date with the Debian installer
development, and it is possible that a current installer will fall
over dead if used in this way. I really don't know.
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Some of the details are a little different, but the setup of the
hardware and server will be the same. The main difference is just
what you use as the boot file. There is a utility in the Linux
kernel tree
that Debian doesn't officially support this or
build the XCOFF image for you, but if you're willing to do a
little work on your own it should be fine.
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larger than a floppy. I think there
is enough documentation available to do something that would work for
booting from a CD, but it's time I certainly don't have.
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that the kernel that the original poster was using was likely
misconfigured in some way to not have the hfsplus code. It's been
available in Debian kernels for a long time.
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have put in to replace
the real hostname, I would be interested to know if there are any
non-alphanumeric characters in the hostname. I would not be surprised
in the least to hear that atalkd doesn't check the strings in some way.
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atalkd and afpd show up in /var/log/daemon.log. Sorry for the
confusion from the earlier message.
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explicit package name if you want to know about multiple packages.
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of the older files.
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You should be able to restart just netatalk with this:
/etc/init.d/netatalk restart
You need to do that as root, of course.
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$ATALK_ZONE
/usr/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 $ATALK_NAME:netatalk$ATALK_ZONE
I would suggest checking the logs for any errors related to atalkd.
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to me.
You don't say much about how you tried to use the Laserwriter. You might
want to post the output of nbplkup or some of the other appletalk
utilities to help debug the problem.
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and shouldn't suffer from this issue, although I
could be wrong on that part. I don't have one that recent.
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, one more question: what is a good name for the alternative model?
What about macintosh_swap?
Ideally, the kernel should send up the same codes as a PC keyboard.
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with the part=num
option, so you may want to try adding part=10 to your options.
If that helps, it would seem to indicate that the type is
flagged wrong in the partition map. This output doesn't seem
to have the raw type strings, so it's hard to say.
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/dev/hdc/mntpoint hfsplus part=10 0 0
Substitute the desired device, mount point, and partition number as needed.
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to select the right session on the disc in the source I have here.
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this driver would crash most Macs.
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directly, you can cause
a poweroff problem. The hardware has a watchdog style setup where it
will shutdown if it doesn't get the communication between the OS and
the PMU chip that it expects. It's been a big problem with trying to
get Linux working on older m68k based PowerBooks.
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Classic VM (build Blackdown-1.3.1-02b-FCS, native threads, nojit)
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So, my questions would be:
- which driver is actually needed in the case of #345467
swim3.ko
the hermes/orinoco driver to interface with the slot.
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/net/wireless/airport.c
drivers/scsi/mac53c94.c
drivers/scsi/mesh.c
drivers/serial/pmac_zilog.c
Just as a note, I searched for macio_register_driver to build this list.
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bus support wasn't
entirely patched in for hotplug and probably by extension for udev.
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Are we still using devfs, or have we moved on to using udev?
The installer uses udev for current 2.6 kernels.
Then the likely explanation is that udev doesn't like devices
with the switch to Xorg, but the basics are probably similar.
2- Can I work the menus without the mouse in X-Windows?
Probably not without some configuration. The default setup for twm is
pretty simple.
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since the floppy.ko driver said that something else was already using
block major 2.
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'' package to post against?
I would think the correct fix would be to update hotplug and friends
to know about macio. There was a patch floating around to do just that.
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numbers in hex, but X
seems to want decimal. This is just the same number being printed
two different ways. It's been brought up on the list before.
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probably find
the discussions in past list threads. It's not a well supported
program anymore, given the age of the hardware it supports.
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target. It looks
like the largest supported would be sda15 for your first disk.
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it finds. If you
put the bootstrap partition first, then Linux would be the default even
if you drain the battery or otherwise lose the settings in firmware.
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that it won't
try to load anything from it.
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reading the floppy, it failed.
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. The older 7x00/8x00 machines were probably best, since
that is what was the original hardware support.
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want to check the
boot messages for anything about l2 and/or l3 cache configuration
to see if something looks different. There used to be a way to force
these things, but I'm not sure if that still exists in a modern kernel.
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old m68k based model.
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models with IDE
hard drives as well, but I'd have to search around to figure
out which ones.
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have an
HFS filesystem on it, but it uses a special partition type. My guess
is that one of them is looking at the filesystem, while the other is
only looking at the type field in the partition map.
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that are used to read individual files and directories on that volume.
HFS: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/mac/Files/Files-99.html
HFS+: http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1150.html
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upgrade
for my 7600 at one point. While it was not as big an improvement as
you might think, I did have it using both chips in Linux at one point.
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for a really long time. Any ppc based laptop
definitely has an ATA drive of some flavor, and a few of the 68k based
ones did, too.
Some of the PowerBook G3 models had a large number of ATA channels with
seemingly random bus numbering, so you may want to poke around as suggested.
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that sort of thing easy
on what it considers a fixed, internal device.
I would really suggest moving to a network filesystem of some sort.
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the OF console.
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protocol by sending raw ADB packets using /dev/adb. It
is very specific to the ADB trackpad device and pokes magic values into
ADB registers to control the current mode.
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find
a version of this code compiled with java 1.3 or upgrade your java
to 1.4. Take a look back through the archives for the IBM java 1.4
if you decide to take that route. There isn't a 1.4 java from sun
or blackdown for ppc.
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bootable device.
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Apple decided to use on the Airport Extreme.
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I believe the OF revision is 3.0 or greater on all newworld models.
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into the generic
input layer. It's a configuration option that can be disabled if
you really don't like it. Take a look at INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX in
drivers/input/Kconfig in the source for the description.
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work. There isn't much
free software support for bootable disks on older macs. Just reading
the files from an HFS or HFS+ filesystem is easy.
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you bought a Mac hard drive, it came with third-party drivers. I have a
couple copies of Silverlining laying around because of that.
If someone was going to go to the trouble of getting that support in, it
would be used first for bootable CDs on oldworld and nubus macs, I suspect.
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the filesystem type specified
in /etc/fstab for that device. Check to see if you have the right
type there. Mine has this:
/dev/hda/media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
The type is the third field (iso9660). This is the default under sarge,
so I expect yours is similar.
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of proper support
for partition maps on anything that doesn't look like a hard drive.
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spot to store a pointer
to the TOC or other global environment type stuff. Depending on the
runtime environment of this snippet, it may be important that r2 is
being used as one of the intermediate loads.
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bigger than x86 code. It's just a property of the
instruction set. The x86 uses variable sized opcodes, so some stuff is
only one or two bytes. The ppc instruction set uses exactly 4 bytes
for everything.
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dr-xr-xr-x 5 root root 0 Apr 9 09:17 /proc/device-tree/pseudo-hid/
And in OSX, ioreg lists a top level node of pseudo-hid as well. These
are PowerMac7,2 and PowerBook5,2 respectively.
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to open an APM device?
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is definitely wrong. The device should be something
like /dev/input/mice (any recent kernel) or /dev/adbmouse (really old)
to use an ADB mouse. The line you have would be for a serial mouse.
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use ?
It's only recently that anyone got any floppy driver working on a
68k mac in linux. The swim3 driver isn't quite right for any of
them, since they all have either an older version of SWIM or a
different chip entirely.
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. It might be possible to write a
driver for it, but it would take some significant effort.
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cleanup the screen before the switch. I'd
say file a bug.
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of the kernel changed.
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have had bootable CDs for oldworld. If
you're feeling ambitious and have a copy of Toast, you could fiddle
around with it enough to get it to boot, but Debian wouldn't be able
to distribute such an image.
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to be
quite as crowded.
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