Re: Fwd: Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-27 Thread David Mery
Orion, I think I wrote my previous message before being fully awake! The issue I think was trying to point to the vm on the linux partition. By changing the yaboot.conf according to your email, I've managed to boot Debian (while on the bus to work!). As I'm not connected to anything, it keeps disp

Re: Fwd: Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-26 Thread Orion Buckminster Montoya
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:22:34AM +, David Mery wrote: > Orion, > > I posted the message below to the very interesting thread you > started on installing Debian on a G4 12". However I posted it via > google and though it has appeared on the ng via google, it hasn't > showed up on debian.org.

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-24 Thread Segher Boessenkool
Gabriel Paubert wrote: If you're going to reimplement the delays using the time base, why not use the KeyLargo timer instead? And tie the bus on repeated I/O trying to read the timer, fighting perhaps with another processor on SMP? No thanks. The pci/33 bus is much slower than the arbus/max

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-24 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:26:42AM +0100, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > >On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 02:07, paubert wrote: > > > >>Well, the timebase and decremeter are part of the PPC architecture. > > > >I'm not sure things like 4xx implement them "as-is"... > > It is pa

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-21 Thread Segher Boessenkool
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: If you're going to reimplement the delays using the time base, why not use the KeyLargo timer instead? It runs at the same frequency (18.432MHz) on all machines, so that'll save a multiply ;) Too bad for the non-Macs, but else you'll have to special-case the 601 (a

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-20 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 03:26, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 02:07, paubert wrote: > > > >>Well, the timebase and decremeter are part of the PPC architecture. > > > > I'm not sure things like 4xx implement them "as-is"... > > It is part of the

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-20 Thread Michel Lanners
On 19 Feb, this message from Segher Boessenkool echoed through cyberspace: > If you're going to reimplement the delays using the > time base, why not use the KeyLargo timer instead? Because not every PowerPC, and not even every Mac, has a KeyLargo? Michel ---

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-19 Thread Segher Boessenkool
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 02:07, paubert wrote: Well, the timebase and decremeter are part of the PPC architecture. I'm not sure things like 4xx implement them "as-is"... It is part of the user-level 32-bit PEM -- they better implement it :) BTW for the "53 MHz PB

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-17 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 02:07, paubert wrote: > Well, the timebase and decremeter are part of the PPC architecture. I'm not sure things like 4xx implement them "as-is"... > BTW for the "53 MHz PB", what are the following properties of > cpus/PowerPC,G4: > - timebase-frequency > - bus-frequency

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-16 Thread paubert
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:23:16PM +0100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 19:42, paubert wrote: > > > Well... There might be a bigger problem if the kernel reports 53Mhz > > > on boot (that means upon frequency switch, the kernel internal timing > > > delays may be incorrectly

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-16 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 19:42, paubert wrote: > > Well... There might be a bigger problem if the kernel reports 53Mhz > > on boot (that means upon frequency switch, the kernel internal timing > > delays may be incorrectly adjusted). > > I'm still wondering why the timebase is not used to perform the

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-16 Thread paubert
> Well... There might be a bigger problem if the kernel reports 53Mhz > on boot (that means upon frequency switch, the kernel internal timing > delays may be incorrectly adjusted). I'm still wondering why the timebase is not used to perform these delays. I know that the 601 will add a slightc ompl

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-16 Thread paubert
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 06:05:19PM +0100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 17:12, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > My kernel has support for cpu frequency scaling via /proc/cpufreq -- > > > and now when it boots it claims to be at 53 MHz. You can get this up > > > to the

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-16 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 17:12, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > My kernel has support for cpu frequency scaling via /proc/cpufreq -- > > and now when it boots it claims to be at 53 MHz. You can get this up > > to the proper 867 MHz by doing > > Are you sure of the 53Mhz bit ? Isn't it 533 ? Actu

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-16 Thread Jerome RICHARD
Orion Buckminster Montoya wrote: But when you get to the step of partitioning/initializing/mounting your hard drive, the kernel you get from http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/current/new-powermac/ will tell you "No hard disks were found." If you look at /dev/hda yo

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-16 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 22:54, Orion Buckminster Montoya wrote: > But when you get to the step of partitioning/initializing/mounting > your hard drive, the kernel you get from > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/current/new-powermac/ > will tell you "No hard disks were

Re: Booting the Debian installation CD on Powerbook G4 12"

2003-02-14 Thread Orion Buckminster Montoya
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:02:32PM +0100, Jerome RICHARD wrote: > I've seen in the debian powerpc mailing list that you have installed a > debian on a PowerBook G4 12". > > I've just buyed one and the Debian CD-ROM don't boot (But boot on a > eMac). Do you know how I should do ? Yes, and since