Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-11 Thread John Ogness
On 2019-05-11, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> If you find some time, I think it would be interesting if we had a >>> grub-boot test image where BootX is using: >>> >>> >>> boot &device;:,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf >>> >>> >>> I suspect Apple users would then be able to "properly

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/11/19 8:07 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> If you find some time, I think it would be interesting if we had a >> grub-boot test image where BootX is using: >> >> >> boot &device;:,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf >> >> >> I suspect Apple users would then be able to "properly" bo

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
CC-ing GRUB upstream. The context are the new Debian installation ISOs which are now using GRUB instead of Yaboot for booting the installer. The debian-cd script which generates the ISO image with xorriso can be found here: > https://salsa.debian.org/images-team/debian-cd/blob/master/tools/boot/

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-10 Thread John Ogness
On 2019-05-05, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > If just removing the extra colon fixes the problem *and* also does not > break the boot using a CD-ROM (which currently works so it should be > tested it still does with the change), we should fix the bug upstream. I would like to point out that p

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-06 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On 06/05/2019 10:35, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 5/5/19 4:24 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: >> Right, these graft points are unnecessary - if you look at the BootX file on >> the ISO >> then it's simply a pointer to /boot/grub/powerpc-ieee1275/grub.chrp which is >> a >> bootinfo file cont

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-06 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On 06/05/2019 10:25, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 5/5/19 2:47 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: >> Ah no, that's not correct - BootX is an enhanced bootloader written by Apple >> to >> enable multi-booting with MacOS X and grub-mkrescue is assuming that it is >> being >> installed on a HD con

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > If a file CD1/System/Library/CoreServices/BootX had existed on hard disk, > > the pathspec "CD1" would have overwritten the previously inserted IsoNode > > object which held the instruction to copy from "grub.chrp". John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > But there is no file CD1/Syst

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 9:19 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I just created the first test image for debian-installer which boots > with GRUB instead of Yaboot. The image is available from the usual > location for GRUB tests: > >> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/grub-test/ > > Feel free to test

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/5/19 5:19 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >> BootX is an enhanced bootloader written by Apple [...] >> in real life BootX is a COFF executable and not a bootinfo file. > > This seems to be not mutually exclusive. > > https://opensource.apple.com/source/bless/bless-11/README.BOOTING > states >

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/5/19 4:24 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > Right, these graft points are unnecessary - if you look at the BootX file on > the ISO > then it's simply a pointer to /boot/grub/powerpc-ieee1275/grub.chrp which is a > bootinfo file containing this: > > > boot &device;:&partition;,\System\Library\Co

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/5/19 3:59 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > It's name on hard disk was "grub.chrp". > (Its purpose and format is beyond my knowledge.) It's a CHRP bootscript for PowerMacs. > If a file CD1/System/Library/CoreServices/BootX had existed on hard disk, > the pathspec "CD1" would have overwritten the p

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/5/19 2:47 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > Ah no, that's not correct - BootX is an enhanced bootloader written by Apple > to > enable multi-booting with MacOS X and grub-mkrescue is assuming that it is > being > installed on a HD containing MacOS X with BootX in the default location. > Whilst

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/5/19 16:35, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 05/05/2019 15:02, Frank Scheiner wrote: On 5/5/19 14:47, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 05/05/2019 13:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I think the bootinfo.txt is for IBM CHRP machines while the BootX is for Macs. Ah no, that's not correct - Bo

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > Right, these graft points are unnecessary - if you look at the BootX file on > the ISO then it's simply a pointer to /boot/grub/powerpc-ieee1275/grub.chrp They are copy siblings. libisofs knew that they came from the same hard disk inode and thus decided to store the

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On 05/05/2019 15:02, Frank Scheiner wrote: > On 5/5/19 14:47, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: >> On 05/05/2019 13:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On May 5, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: Presumably for the test ISO image you were manually copying /System/Libra

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On 05/05/2019 14:59, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: >> Hi Adrian, [...] >> In the last thread you listed the options as: > > The actually used options can be seen in a debian-cd specific data file > of the ISO: > > mount debian-10.0-powerpc-grub-NETINST-1.iso /mnt/iso

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/5/19 14:47, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 05/05/2019 13:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On May 5, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: Presumably for the test ISO image you were manually copying /System/Library/CoreServices/* into the image yourself? Hopefully with the above chan

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > Hi Adrian, [...] > In the last thread you listed the options as: The actually used options can be seen in a debian-cd specific data file of the ISO: mount debian-10.0-powerpc-grub-NETINST-1.iso /mnt/iso cat /mnt/iso/.disk/mkisofs yields in a single line which

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On 05/05/2019 13:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On May 5, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland >> wrote: >> >> Presumably for the test ISO image you were manually copying >> /System/Library/CoreServices/* into the image yourself? Hopefully with the >> above >> changes then you should no

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> On May 5, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland > wrote: > > Presumably for the test ISO image you were manually copying > /System/Library/CoreServices/* into the image yourself? Hopefully with the > above > changes then you should no longer have to do this. No, I used pathspecs and I create

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-05 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On 04/05/2019 20:19, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > I just created the first test image for debian-installer which boots > with GRUB instead of Yaboot. The image is available from the usual > location for GRUB tests: > >> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/grub-test/ > > Fe

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> On May 5, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > > @Adrian: > The `hfsprogs` package was also not included in the older ISO from > 2019-04-20 (I only checked the ppc64 one). Should we include it, so > off-line installations work? Yes. I will include hfsprogs to the package list for d-i.

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/5/19 08:46, Frank Scheiner wrote: @Adrian: The `hfsprogs` package was also not included in the older ISO from 2019-04-20 (I only checked the ppc64 one). Should we include it, so off-line installations work? OTOH should this even work? I.e. to install a base OS from just the netinstall ISOS?

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Frank Scheiner
On 5/5/19 00:27, Karl wrote: Hope this helps https://ibb.co/hmHrvfT The installer can't find the `hfsprogs` package. I just checked the Debian Ports FTP service and it's there, both for powerpc and ppc64. So either your Internet connection was down or - if packages were installed from the insta

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available -- fails to install GRUB "ofpathname: not found"

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/5/19 6:28 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > The log says "grub-installer: grub-install: error: ofpathname: not found.” Ah, right. Since the debian-installer GRUB test image doesn't contain Yaboot anymore, Frank cannot steal of the "ofpath" utility from Yaboot and repurpose it for GRUB. So, we need to

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/5/19 12:21 AM, John Ogness wrote: >> If the GRUB rescue image does not show this problem, then we probably know >> why. > > The behavior is exactly the same for both ISOs. When I do: > > boot usb0/disk:,\\BootX > > It gives the error: > > DISK-LABEL: invalid partition # > > And I

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Karl
Don’t know, if mail mail reached you … Here is the log: https://ibb.co/hmHrvfT > Am 04.05.2019 um 23:43 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > : > > On 5/4/19 11:31 PM, Carlos wrote: >> Booting with this path worked for me: >> boot usb1/disk:,\\grub.elf >> >> How could I provide a log? Because I

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Karl
Hope this helps https://ibb.co/hmHrvfT > Am 04.05.2019 um 23:43 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > : > > On 5/4/19 11:31 PM, Carlos wrote: >> Booting with this path worked for me: >> boot usb1/disk:,\\grub.elf >> >> How could I provide a log? Because I have no working OS right now. > Switch t

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Ogness
On 2019-05-04, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Then I would be able to do the expected: >> >> boot usb0/disk:,\\BootX >> >> This is all probably special case iBook G4 issues. But I wanted to >> mention it since it is pretty obvious a lot of people are tripping over >> it. > > Did you see

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 11:31 PM, Carlos wrote: > Booting with this path worked for me: > boot usb1/disk:,\\grub.elf > > How could I provide a log? Because I have no working OS right now. Switch to a second console with Alt+Cursor, the log file is located in /var/log/syslog. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adria

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 11:16 PM, John Ogness wrote:> Then I would be able to do the expected: > > boot usb0/disk:,\\BootX > > This is all probably special case iBook G4 issues. But I wanted to > mention it since it is pretty obvious a lot of people are tripping over > it. Did you see this behavior with t

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Carlos
Booting with this path worked for me: boot usb1/disk:,\\grub.elf How could I provide a log? Because I have no working OS right now. > Am 04.05.2019 um 23:13 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > : > >> On 5/4/19 11:08 PM, Carlos wrote: >> So, I tried to install, but failed: >> >> A few errors oc

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Ogness
On 2019-05-04, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > The boot script has: > > > boot &device;:&partition;,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf > I believe this boot script is causing a problem when trying to boot from USB. Normally I would do: boot usb0/disk:,\\BootX Note that no partition

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 11:08 PM, Carlos wrote: > So, I tried to install, but failed: > > A few errors occurred while installation: > - couldn't load firmware b43, I think because that isn't on the image? Yes, the images currently don't contain any firmware. I will work on the firmware issues once I have commi

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Carlos
So, I tried to install, but failed: A few errors occurred while installation: - couldn't load firmware b43, I think because that isn't on the image? - The archive security.debian.org could not be accessed - GRUB bootloader couldn't be installed Language was English Keyboard was German Installat

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 10:06 PM, Carlos wrote: > Tried the GRUB image with the following path: > boot usb1/disk@1:2,\install\vmlinux This is the kernel image, not the GRUB image. The boot script has: boot &device;:&partition;,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf So, try booting \\System\Library\CoreServic

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Ogness
On 2019-05-04, Carlos wrote: > Tried the GRUB image with the following path: > boot usb1/disk@1:2,\install\vmlinux On my iBook G4, I can boot the installer from USB with: boot usb0/disk:,\\grub.elf (Note that you do not specify a partition.) John Ogness

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Carlos
Tried the GRUB image with the following path: boot usb1/disk@1:2,\install\vmlinux I guess this is wrong, because I got the message: MAC-PARTS: specific partition is not valid can't open -> path > Am 04.05.2019 um 21:55 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > : > >> On 5/4/19 9:52 PM, Carlos wrote:

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 9:52 PM, Carlos wrote: > I will try. The last image 2019-04-20 doesn't work. Because I couldn't > install GRUB while installation There is a known bug when running the installer in a language other than English. Please run the installer in English. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian

Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Carlos
I will try. The last image 2019-04-20 doesn't work. Because I couldn't install GRUB while installation > Am 04.05.2019 um 21:19 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > : > > Hello! > > I just created the first test image for debian-installer which boots > with GRUB instead of Yaboot. The image is

Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! I just created the first test image for debian-installer which boots with GRUB instead of Yaboot. The image is available from the usual location for GRUB tests: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/grub-test/ Feel free to test and report back. It boots fine on my iBook G4. Adrian