Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-30 Thread Christian Jaeger
Hello What are you using for running Mac OS 9 (*) on a x86-64 machine? It seems there are only two ways: (a) running a ppc linux kernel with MOL under QEMU, run Mac OS inside MOL. (b) running SheepShaver Any good/bad experiences with either of those or other ways? (I need to get at some old F

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Christian Jaeger wrote: Hello What are you using for running Mac OS 9 (*) on a x86-64 machine? It seems there are only two ways: (a) running a ppc linux kernel with MOL under QEMU, run Mac OS inside MOL. (b) running SheepShaver Any good/bad experiences with either of those or other ways? (I

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Julien BLACHE
Christian Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are you using for running Mac OS 9 (*) on a x86-64 machine? It > seems there are only two ways: > (a) running a ppc linux kernel with MOL under QEMU, run Mac OS inside MOL. > (b) running SheepShaver (c) PearPC JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debian &

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Adrian Zaugg
Hi Christian You may run pearpc and mol, SheepShaver or Basilisk II. You can get more info from http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060509180914879&lsrc=osxh about the latter two. Easiest would be to get an old mac from someone... Best Regards, Adrian. Christian Jaeger wrote:

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Christian Jaeger wrote: Jérôme Warnier wrote: Just my .2c: Both applications also exist for Windows, and probably run nicely under WINE. Yes, I've thought about this, too, but I'd have to get a copy of those apps only for the purpose of the conversion; also I was still using FileMaker 4. Als

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
Julien BLACHE wrote: (c) PearPC http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/faq.html says "Can I run Mac OS 9.x.y? So far no one has succeeded in doing that. Have a look at the forums." and I didn't find something relevant in the forums when I looked. Christian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
Jérôme Warnier wrote: Just my .2c: Both applications also exist for Windows, and probably run nicely under WINE. Yes, I've thought about this, too, but I'd have to get a copy of those apps only for the purpose of the conversion; also I was still using FileMaker 4. Also there might be further

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Julien BLACHE
Christian Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (c) PearPC > http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/faq.html says "Can I run Mac OS 9.x.y? > So far no one has succeeded in doing that. Have a look at the forums." > and I didn't find something relevant in the forums when I looked. Hmm I'm pretty sure I saw

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
Jérôme Warnier wrote: Christian Jaeger wrote: Jérôme Warnier wrote: Just my .2c: Both applications also exist for Windows, and probably run nicely under WINE. Yes, I've thought about this, too, but I'd have to get a copy of those apps only for the purpose of the conversion; also I was still

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
Adrian Zaugg wrote: Hi Christian You may run pearpc and mol, You mean running a linux system inside pearpc and from there run MOL (the same way I suggested with qemu)? Would you recommend pearpc over qemu for that purpose? SheepShaver or Basilisk II. Basilisk II won't run Mac OS 9, fro

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Christian Jaeger wrote: > J�r�me Warnier wrote: > > Just install Mac OS 9 directly under your qemu VM. > > Really? Doesn't qemu only emulate PC hardware (except for the cpu)? For linux > that shouldn't matter as you could presumably compile the PC hardware drivers > into a ppc

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Brad Boyer
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 04:36:44PM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: > Basilisk II won't run Mac OS 9, from what I read. As far as I know, Basilisk II is an m68k Mac emulator rather than ppc. It sounds like the application needed is ppc native. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To U

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: I didn't try running MacOS, but my (Ubuntu's) qemu has: | $ qemu-system-ppc -M ? | Supported machines are: | g3bw Heathrow based PowerMAC (default) | mac99 Mac99 based PowerMAC | prep PowerPC PREP platform | ref405ep ref405ep | taihu taihu T

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Brad Boyer
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 06:46:43PM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: > $ qemu-system-ppc -M \? > Supported machines are: > g3bw Heathrow based PowerMAC (default) > mac99 Mac99 based PowerMAC > prep PowerPC PREP platform > ref405ep ref405ep > taihu taihu > > Using -M prep shows

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
Brad Boyer wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 06:46:43PM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: $ qemu-system-ppc -M \? Supported machines are: g3bw Heathrow based PowerMAC (default) mac99 Mac99 based PowerMAC prep PowerPC PREP platform ref405ep ref405ep taihu taihu Using -M prep

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Brad Boyer
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 07:31:41PM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: > With mac99 it goes further (shows graphical output for a moment, then > back to a text screen, with messages "Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): > 0x700 Program DSISR=0x4200 DAR=... generating stack backtrace prior > to panic ..

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
Brad Boyer wrote: Weren't you trying to run OS9? This is definitely OSX, as the classic MacOS didn't use mach for its kernel. Hm, strange, I wasn't aware that any OS X stuff was on that partition as well. And when booting that partition through MOL it definitely booted OS 9 (but iirc one c

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
Christian Jaeger wrote: So I guess I'm back at using MOL under a linux/ppc (since MOL didn't require these driver partitions, and didn't have any issue loading the Mac OS 9). Still out of luck: # create a file named "lenny" of 3.5G size (mksparse is a script of mine) $ mksparse 3.5G lenny #

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-07-31 Thread Brad Boyer
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 03:50:38AM +0200, Christian Jaeger wrote: > So I guess I'm back at using MOL under a linux/ppc (since MOL didn't > require these driver partitions, and didn't have any issue loading the > Mac OS 9). I just tried it, and I couldn't get OS9 to run under qemu even with the o

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-08-01 Thread Christian Jaeger
Jérôme Warnier wrote: In this case, why bother using MOL? Just install Mac OS 9 directly under your qemu VM. We're waiting for your confirmation that you have first-hand experience of running Mac OS 9 directly under qemu, or can refer to reports of doing that successfully. On http://www.cla

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-08-01 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Christian Jaeger wrote: Jérôme Warnier wrote: In this case, why bother using MOL? Just install Mac OS 9 directly under your qemu VM. We're waiting for your confirmation that you have first-hand experience of running Mac OS 9 directly under qemu, or can refer to reports of doing that successf

Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64

2008-08-01 Thread Christian Jaeger
Just for the record, here's my current status: I wrote: it seems there are three possibilities now: - run linux with MOL under pearpc, and Mac OS 9 under MOL I couldn't get linux under pearpc to run, also as I said the version in Debian is compiled for 64 bit and thus doesn't use the JIT so