Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-02-12 Thread Peter Bergner
Albert D. Cahalan wrote: You sure did make a mess for library developers. The Alpha is trivial to support. Maybe, but AFAIR, the Alpha doesn't have a 32-bit mode like 64-bit PowerPC processors do. IIRC, S390x and SPARC64 have the same issues... except the number of 32-bit users on those

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-02-11 Thread Peter Bergner
Albert D. Cahalan wrote: Why: Somebody thought it was a good idea for a 64-bit system to have all the apps be 32-bit. As one of the people that made the decision that the majority (not all) apps be 32-bit, I can say without hesitation that it was the right choice! This means that a 32-bit

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-02-11 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Peter Bergner writes: Albert D. Cahalan wrote: Why: Somebody thought it was a good idea for a 64-bit system to have all the apps be 32-bit. As one of the people that made the decision that the majority (not all) apps be 32-bit, I can say without hesitation that it was the right choice!

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-01-31 Thread Segher Boessenkool
Albert D. Cahalan wrote: This is kind of a survey for PowerPC Linux users. Is it OK to make 32-bit PowerPC apps bigger and slower to allow for running them on IBM's 64-bit hardware? This would hurt everyone running Linux on a Mac. My vote is *NO*. Why not have the people running such systems

RE: bloat tolerance?

2003-01-31 Thread Pisupati, Ajay
Just wanted to say hello to everyone. I have been following this _great_ mailing list for about 2 weeks now. You helped me get my ibook2.2 up and running :D. Also wanted to thank Ben H for his excellent work. Also, I think this question is very valid. At what point _do_ you draw the line?

bloat tolerance?

2003-01-30 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
This is kind of a survey for PowerPC Linux users. Is it OK to make 32-bit PowerPC apps bigger and slower to allow for running them on IBM's 64-bit hardware? This would hurt everyone running Linux on a Mac. Example: The top program could grow from 2.0 MB to 2.2+ MB. (that's the run-time memory

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-01-30 Thread Angela Kahealani
On Wed, 2003-01-29 21:11, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: This is kind of a survey for PowerPC Linux users. Is it OK to make 32-bit PowerPC apps bigger and slower to allow for running them on IBM's 64-bit hardware? This would hurt everyone running Linux on a Mac. It seems inevitable that

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-01-30 Thread Ross Vumbaca
Hi, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: This is kind of a survey for PowerPC Linux users. Is it OK to make 32-bit PowerPC apps bigger and slower to allow for running them on IBM's 64-bit hardware? This would hurt everyone running Linux on a Mac. 32 bit PowerPC Linux is not exclusive to the Mac. It is

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-01-30 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
This is kind of a survey for PowerPC Linux users. Is it OK to make 32-bit PowerPC apps bigger and slower to allow for running them on IBM's 64-bit hardware? This would hurt everyone running Linux on a Mac. 32 bit PowerPC Linux is not exclusive to the Mac. It is run on PowerPC ATX boards

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-01-30 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: This is kind of a survey for PowerPC Linux users. Is it OK to make 32-bit PowerPC apps bigger and slower to allow for running them on IBM's 64-bit hardware? This would hurt everyone running Linux on a Mac. 32 bit PowerPC Linux is not

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-01-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:42:44PM +1100, Ross Vumbaca wrote: Hi, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: This is kind of a survey for PowerPC Linux users. Is it OK to make 32-bit PowerPC apps bigger and slower to allow for running them on IBM's 64-bit hardware? This would hurt everyone running Linux on

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-01-30 Thread Rogério Brito
On Jan 30 2003, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: This is kind of a survey for PowerPC Linux users. Is it OK to make 32-bit PowerPC apps bigger and slower to allow for running them on IBM's 64-bit hardware? This would hurt everyone running Linux on a Mac. IMVHO, it would make life *even*

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-01-30 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Geert Uytterhoeven writes: On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: This is kind of a survey for PowerPC Linux users. Is it OK to make 32-bit PowerPC apps bigger and slower to allow for running them on IBM's 64-bit hardware? This would hurt everyone running Linux on a Mac. 32 bit

Re: bloat tolerance?

2003-01-30 Thread Philip Larkin Waters
I don't quite understand the issue. - Original Message - From: Albert D. Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ross Vumbaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Albert D. Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:02 AM Subject: Re: bloat tolerance