In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ross Vumbaca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use my PCMCIA slot to read high capacity compact flash cards, WiFi,
> and for Firewire soon.
Wireless and Firewire are built-in on the Apple laptops, and USB flash
card readers are very inexpensive.
--
Shields.
On 9 Apr, this message from florian echoed through cyberspace:
> man! i never thought that my simple question for a laptop
> recommendation would cause all this ; )
An I never thought it would stay that polite an on-topic :-
Cheers
Michel
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On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 11:54:52PM +1000, Ross Vumbaca wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
> My price includes tax (which we call GST of 10%). I like PowerPC (I have
> an 800Mhz 7451 on an ATX board), but I find it hard to accept that a P4
> 1.6 is similar in speed to an 800Mhz G4, I think it would be rath
Hi,
Sven Luther wrote:
My price includes tax (which we call GST of 10%). I like PowerPC (I have
So there is at least a 10% price difference here, which make your price
more like 1650 Euros.
I don't understand your calculation? My price _includes_ the tax, if I
remove the tax, it is lower.
On Mit, 2003-04-09 at 18:44, christophe barbe wrote:
> Le mer 09/04/2003 à 12:21, Geert Uytterhoeven a écrit :
> > On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, christophe barbe wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:57:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > > On 9 Apr 2003, florian wrote:
> > > > > another criteria f
El mié, 09 de 04 de 2003 a las 17:33, christophe barbe escribió:
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:57:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On 9 Apr 2003, florian wrote:
> > > another criteria for me is also: gotta work well with eclipse and other
> > > java stuff. its possible to compile eclipse by
Why a PowerPC laptop?...
Because it looks cool !!!.
Blessings All...
Carlos.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wrong, if you look at it really, this is not the case, you pay what you
> get for, and the ibook are rather cheap for the price point. The only
> negative point is that they have smaller screens, but that only means
> that app
Le mer 09/04/2003 à 12:21, Geert Uytterhoeven a écrit :
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, christophe barbe wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:57:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > On 9 Apr 2003, florian wrote:
> > > > another criteria for me is also: gotta work well with eclipse and other
> > > > j
On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, christophe barbe wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:57:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On 9 Apr 2003, florian wrote:
> > > another criteria for me is also: gotta work well with eclipse and other
> > > java stuff. its possible to compile eclipse by hand to run on debia
On Mit, 2003-04-09 at 16:45, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 02:15:07PM +0100, gimli wrote:
> > I've have a atlhon 1.33MHz, a Celeron 1.1MHz and an ibook 700MHz.
>
> And do you know how an Athlon 1.33 MHz compares to a P4 ? Do you really
> think a 1.4GHz P4 is faster than a Athlon 1.3
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:57:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2003, florian wrote:
> > another criteria for me is also: gotta work well with eclipse and other
> > java stuff. its possible to compile eclipse by hand to run on debian ppc.
> > but it works kinda buggy..
>
> apt-get i
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 02:15:07PM +0100, gimli wrote:
> I've have a atlhon 1.33MHz, a Celeron 1.1MHz and an ibook 700MHz.
And do you know how an Athlon 1.33 MHz compares to a P4 ? Do you really
think a 1.4GHz P4 is faster than a Athlon 1.33 MHz ?
It all depends on how you benchmark too.
Friendl
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 02:28:15PM +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote:
> > I currently own an iBook2, and have often wondered if it would have been a
> > better plan to go for a laptop with support for `multimedia' activities
> > (e.g. Altivec in a G4), and also whether I would have a copy of gcc that
> >
Hi,
Michael Cameron wrote:
All these laptops have built in modems too.
But beware, some are winmodems.
Not all of them ?
Possibly true, I haven't been shopping for a laptop for a long time though I
thought that some Sonys and possibly some Dells had non-winmodems. Perhaps
better advic
Hi,
Sven Luther wrote:
Well, but they are usually more expensive, at least here in france.
I would've thought that Europe has fairly competitive prices (compared
to us)..
My laptop has a 14" screen, DVD, 1.6 Ghz P4M, 256 MB DDR (up to 1 GB)
and it cost the equivalent of 1500 euros (includin
>> > All these laptops have built in modems too.
>> >
>> But beware, some are winmodems.
>
>Not all of them ?
>
Possibly true, I haven't been shopping for a laptop for a long time though I
thought that some Sonys and possibly some Dells had non-winmodems. Perhaps
better advice would be to watch ou
I've have a atlhon 1.33MHz, a Celeron 1.1MHz and an ibook 700MHz.
They'r all running debian.
The ibook ir comparable to de celeronbut the celeron has a riva tnt2
They both got the same amount of memory and hdparm says the disks are
similar in speed...
The athlon beats the crap out of th
> I currently own an iBook2, and have often wondered if it would have been a
> better plan to go for a laptop with support for `multimedia' activities
> (e.g. Altivec in a G4), and also whether I would have a copy of gcc that
> would allow me to take advantage of such hardware.
Hi Ed,
I actually r
El mié, 09 de 04 de 2003 a las 13:31, Edward G. Speyer escribió:
> On 9 Apr 2003, florian wrote:
>
> > i know that you cant really measure the overall performance in mhz. but
> > after all i think its for sure that a 1ghz powerbook would not be as
> > fast as a 2ghz x86 laptop, or?
>
> ...and on
On Mit, 2003-04-09 at 12:14, florian wrote:
>
> i know that you cant really measure the overall performance in mhz. but
> after all i think its for sure that a 1ghz powerbook would not be as fast
> as a 2ghz x86 laptop, or?
As always, it probably depends. :) The only way to know is to benchmark
t
On 9 Apr 2003, florian wrote:
> i know that you cant really measure the overall performance in mhz. but
> after all i think its for sure that a 1ghz powerbook would not be as
> fast as a 2ghz x86 laptop, or?
...and on top of this, is it the case the gcc does more optimisation
voodoo for x86-like
OoO En cette nuit striée d'éclairs du mercredi 09 avril 2003, vers
02:55, Patrick Baltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait:
> My personal opinion is that Apple laptops are great hardware, but the
> linux community using them is so much smaller that it was hard to get
> some of the things common on x86. I
On 9 Apr 2003, florian wrote:
> another criteria for me is also: gotta work well with eclipse and other
> java stuff. its possible to compile eclipse by hand to run on debian ppc.
> but it works kinda buggy..
apt-get install eclipse?
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, Patrick Baltz wrote:
I'd also add to check the display carefully.
Most new inexpensive PC laptops have an XGA display which is
1024x768. That may be fine. However you may want an
SXGA or SXGA+ if you intend to run at higher resolutions.
I've heard that most laptop displays on
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:14:58PM +0200, florian wrote:
> On Mit, 2003-04-09 at 10:55, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 10:18:42AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:57:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > im currently thinki
On Mit, 2003-04-09 at 10:55, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 10:18:42AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:57:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > hi!
> > > >
> > > > im currently thinking about buying a laptop. basically i
> > > > wonder if its worth to
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 07:08:08PM +1000, Ross Vumbaca wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sven Luther wrote:
>
> >Compared to same priced x86 laptops, around 1300 Euros inclusive VAT,
> >the disadvantage of the ibook is that the screen is smaller (12" only)
> >but with mostly the same resolution. This can maybe ev
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 10:32:48AM +0100, Michael Cameron wrote:
> > All these laptops have built in modems too.
> >
> But beware, some are winmodems.
Not all of them ?
Friendly,
Sven Luther
> All these laptops have built in modems too.
>
But beware, some are winmodems.
Hi,
Sven Luther wrote:
Compared to same priced x86 laptops, around 1300 Euros inclusive VAT,
the disadvantage of the ibook is that the screen is smaller (12" only)
but with mostly the same resolution. This can maybe even be seen as an
advantage in certain cases, as it makes for smaller laptops,
On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 10:18:42AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:57:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > hi!
> > >
> > > im currently thinking about buying a laptop. basically i
> > > wonder if its worth to get a powerpc laptop, since most
> > > x86 ones are alot che
On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 09:36:32PM +0200, florian wrote:
> besides the nice design of the hardware, are there any
> reasons? (i would only use debian on it, so things like
> mac os x dont really matter)
When I shopped for a laptop 1.5 years ago I found that if I wanted a
small laptop with a good
On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 11:57:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > hi!
> >
> > im currently thinking about buying a laptop. basically i
> > wonder if its worth to get a powerpc laptop, since most
> > x86 ones are alot cheaper.
> >
> that's their only "adventaje"
And not even that is really
On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 02:55, Patrick Baltz wrote:
> However, you really need to look at the price/performance to make your
> decision. I would figure out which powerpc laptop you want, and then
> look at x86 laptops with comparable features (multimedia, size, weight,
> display, etc.). MHz rea
On 8 Apr, this message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] echoed
through cyberspace:
>> besides the nice design of the hardware, are there any
>> reasons? (i would only use debian on it, so things like
>> mac os x dont really matter)
>>
> better performance.
That depends heavily on your usage of the box.
> hi!
>
> im currently thinking about buying a laptop. basically i
> wonder if its worth to get a powerpc laptop, since most
> x86 ones are alot cheaper.
>
that's their only "adventaje"
> besides the nice design of the hardware, are there any
> reasons? (i would only use debian on it, so thin
My personal opinion is that Apple laptops are great hardware, but the
linux community using them is so much smaller that it was hard to get
some of the things common on x86. It's much improved in the past year
or so in my opinion.
.
However, you really need to look at the price/performance to
Hello,
I suggest you the Apple iBook, it works fine with Debian GNU/Linux
and is quite fast for multimedia applications, furthermore it looks
pretty and is not heavy in weight as many other x86 laptops.
I've bought my iBook when I had your same doubts, now I wouldn't change
my iBook against no ot
hi!
im currently thinking about buying a laptop. basically i
wonder if its worth to get a powerpc laptop, since most
x86 ones are alot cheaper.
besides the nice design of the hardware, are there any
reasons? (i would only use debian on it, so things like
mac os x dont really matter)
to which
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