Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-03-04 Thread Ben Hill
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 14:17 +, Matthew T. Atkinson wrote: 'ello, On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 20:04 -0500, Harvey Ussery wrote: I recently reinstalled Sarge PPC on a G4 iMac. Each time I boot up now, I get an error warning: I think I need pinching -- I just logged into GNOME and the error

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-03-03 Thread Matthew T. Atkinson
'ello, On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 20:04 -0500, Harvey Ussery wrote: I recently reinstalled Sarge PPC on a G4 iMac. Each time I boot up now, I get an error warning: I think I need pinching -- I just logged into GNOME and the error didn't appear. I rebooted just to make sure I hadn't clicked OK out

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu'

2005-02-24 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 11:07:08PM +0100, Martin Lohmeier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Lohmeier wrote: | Check the BTS : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=296437 | | The permissions are not included in the rule files. To get it working a

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu'

2005-02-24 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 05:19:59PM +, Ben Hill wrote: On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 15:49 +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Like said, this has been fixed in control-center, so what about testing the real fix instead of using lousy workarounds ? I and others lost enough time making sure the fix got in,

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu'

2005-02-24 Thread Eric Gaumer
Ben Hill wrote: On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 10:28 -0800, Eric Gaumer wrote: This shouldn't break anything serious enough to not be able to use Sid. What exactly do you mean by a bunch of stuff? The main thing was all the system icons turned into the default bit of paper. I can remember reading the

Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu'

2005-02-23 Thread Ben Hill
When starting GNOME on my PowerBook, I'm getting a pop-up complaining about the wrong permission for /dev/pmu. I've found a post about it here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/01/msg00235.html ...and added: pmu:root:video:0660 to /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu'

2005-02-23 Thread Martin Lohmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ben, Ben Hill wrote: | When starting GNOME on my PowerBook, I'm getting a pop-up complaining | about the wrong permission for /dev/pmu. | | I've found a post about it here: | | http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/01/msg00235.html

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu'

2005-02-23 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:36:49PM +, Ben Hill wrote: When starting GNOME on my PowerBook, I'm getting a pop-up complaining about the wrong permission for /dev/pmu. I've found a post about it here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/01/msg00235.html ...and added

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu'

2005-02-23 Thread Martin Lohmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Lohmeier wrote: | Check the BTS : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=296437 | | The permissions are not included in the rule files. To get it working a /etc/udev/rules.d/local.rules with the following content: KERNEL=pmu,

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:03:33AM +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 03:17:22AM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:48:39PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: just kill this warning. Debian works just fine

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 03:17:22AM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:48:39PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: just kill this warning. Debian works just fine without backlight control on both my ibook and the g5. And it's

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:21:08AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:03:33AM +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 03:17:22AM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:48:39PM +0100, Sven

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Sjoerd Simons wrote: The error message won't appear if your user has access to the pmu, Stop. That's already wrong. Users should not have direct control. Install pbbuttonsd instead. -- Martin-Éric Racine, ICT Consultant http://www.iki.fi/q-funk/

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:57:46AM +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:21:08AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:03:33AM +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 03:17:22AM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Christoph

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:57:46AM +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote: As said just change the current pmu patch in the package to do g_warning instead of acme_error, which is trivial. No need to making a lot of fuss about So let's do it ? Do you

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Michael Schmitz
Do we already have a bug against udev to have the above line per default, or otherwise finally fix this issue ? There were some objections to it the last time it was mentioned. I Yep. Allowing arbitrary users to talk to the PMU directly is a Bad Thing (TM). Upstream (Gnome) needs to get a

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Michael Schmitz
The error message won't appear if your user has access to the pmu, which is the case on my system. But that's ofcourse wrong to do by default. What do you respond to Christoph's critic, which was if i remember well : no unaudited gnome app should have such direct access to my

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
Greetings, Please see my extensive overview of the situation, added to bugs 281952, 284328. -- Martin-Éric Racine, ICT Consultant http://www.iki.fi/q-funk/

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Michael Schmitz wrote: There's not much you can do about that - remember that access to /dev/pmu means the console user (if you restrict access by means of some console group) can result in PMU communications hiccup, and when the PMU finds the host has borked the

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Michael Schmitz
There's not much you can do about that - remember that access to /dev/pmu means the console user (if you restrict access by means of some console group) can result in PMU communications hiccup, and when the PMU finds the host has borked the communications, it will shut down power after

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 12:43:13PM +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 09:57:46AM +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote: As said just change the current pmu patch in the package to do g_warning instead of acme_error, which is trivial. No need to

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-10 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Sjoerd Simons wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 12:43:13PM +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: My proposed fix is very simple, but apparently some people didn't understand it. If acme_error is changed to a g_warning, then in case gnome-settings-daemon can't access the pmu (for

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:33:58AM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:48:41PM -0800, Brad Boyer wrote: On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 07:32:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Do we already have a bug against udev to have the above

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-09 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:33:58AM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: The ACME fix exists and is already patched into Ubuntu packages for Warty, according to Sebastien Bacher. For some reason, it's not applied in Debian. So, let's apply it ASAP.

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-09 Thread Sven Luther
severity 284328 serious thanks On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 07:01:21PM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:33:58AM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: The ACME fix exists and is already patched into Ubuntu packages for Warty,

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 07:40:48PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:48:41PM -0800, Brad Boyer wrote: On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 07:32:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Do we already have a bug against udev to have the above line per default, or otherwise finally

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-09 Thread Sven Luther
= g_error_new_literal (ACME_FBLEVEL_ERROR, ACME_FBLEVEL_ERROR_WRONG_PERMS, _(Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device)); return NULL; } foo = ioctl(fd, PMU_IOC_GRAB_BACKLIGHT, 0

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-09 Thread Christoph Hellwig
for '/dev/pmu' device)); just kill this warning. Debian works just fine without backlight control on both my ibook and the g5. And it's really not worth giving hardware control to an unadited GUI program.

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-09 Thread Sven Luther
, ACME_FBLEVEL_ERROR_WRONG_PERMS, _(Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device)); just kill this warning. Debian works just fine without backlight control on both my ibook and the g5. And it's really not worth giving hardware control to an unadited GUI program. What exactly

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-09 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
, _(Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device)); just kill this warning. Debian works just fine without backlight control on both my ibook and the g5. And it's really not worth giving hardware control to an unadited GUI program. Having been trying various ways

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:17:46PM -0800, Matt Weber wrote: On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 20:04 -0500, Harvey Ussery wrote: I recently reinstalled Sarge PPC on a G4 iMac. Each time I boot up now, I get an error warning: Error: Wrong permission for 'dev/pmu' device I've tracked thru

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-08 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 07:32:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Do we already have a bug against udev to have the above line per default, or otherwise finally fix this issue ? There were some objections to it the last time it was mentioned. I believe there were some questions about it being a bad

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:48:41PM -0800, Brad Boyer wrote: On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 07:32:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Do we already have a bug against udev to have the above line per default, or otherwise finally fix this issue ? There were some objections to it the last time it was

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-08 Thread Harvey Ussery
Matt Weber wrote: On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 20:04 -0500, Harvey Ussery wrote: I recently reinstalled Sarge PPC on a G4 iMac. Each time I boot up now, I get an error warning: Error: Wrong permission for 'dev/pmu' device I had this problem also. If I remember correctly

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-08 Thread Harvey Ussery
Brad Boyer wrote: Just for completeness, I'll note that the PMU has very little to do with sound or video as implied in previous posts. It's best for people not to get more confused than already happens. That's right, as I discovered when correcting the error message re /dev/pmu.

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-08 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:48:41PM -0800, Brad Boyer wrote: On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 07:32:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Do we already have a bug against udev to have the above line per default, or otherwise finally fix this issue ? There were some objections to it the last time it was

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-08 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:48:41PM -0800, Brad Boyer wrote: On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 07:32:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Do we already have a bug against udev to have the above line per default, or otherwise finally fix this issue ? There

Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-07 Thread Harvey Ussery
I recently reinstalled Sarge PPC on a G4 iMac. Each time I boot up now, I get an error warning: Error: Wrong permission for 'dev/pmu' device I've tracked thru the system all the ref books on hand, also various linux sites online. Conclusion so far is that this permission problem on /dev

Re: Permission for 'dev/pmu'

2005-01-07 Thread Matt Weber
On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 20:04 -0500, Harvey Ussery wrote: I recently reinstalled Sarge PPC on a G4 iMac. Each time I boot up now, I get an error warning: Error: Wrong permission for 'dev/pmu' device I've tracked thru the system all the ref books on hand, also various linux sites online

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device error in Gnome

2004-11-08 Thread Kiko Piris
On 07/11/2004 at 23:24 -0500, Barry Hawkins wrote: The only meaningful results from the Google search is this message from Kiko Piris in a July 2004 thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/07/msg00462.html In that message I was simply answering that 600 permissions of /dev/pmu

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device error in Gnome

2004-11-08 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kiko Piris wrote: | On 07/11/2004 at 23:24 -0500, Barry Hawkins wrote: [...] |Applying Kiko's recommendation did not change the situation. | | | Of course, because, AFAICS, the problem is not with the permissions of | /dev/pmu, the problem is the

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device error in Gnome

2004-11-07 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Schmitz wrote: |~Do any of you with more history with Gnome have some info on the |proper way to handle the /dev/pmu error when Gnome starts up? I have | | | The proper way to handle this is to change the corresponding Gnome applet | to

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device error in Gnome

2004-11-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 23:04 -0500, Barry Hawkins wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Schmitz wrote: |~Do any of you with more history with Gnome have some info on the |proper way to handle the /dev/pmu error when Gnome starts up? I have | | | The proper way

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device error in Gnome

2004-11-07 Thread Barry Hawkins
the issue. Searching Google for wrong permission /dev/pmu only yields a total of 26 results, all but 8 of which are screened for being duplicates: http://www.google.com/search?q=wrong+permission+%2Fdev%2Fpmustart=0start=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8client=firefoxrls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial The only meaningful

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device error in Gnome

2004-11-07 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michel Dnzer wrote: | On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 23:04 -0500, Barry Hawkins wrote: [...] |I have removed all applets I enabled on my own, and the issue still |persists. Does anyone have recommendations for how to plainly and |simply isolate the

Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device error in Gnome

2004-11-05 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 List, ~Do any of you with more history with Gnome have some info on the proper way to handle the /dev/pmu error when Gnome starts up? I have seen posts on Debian lists and elsewhere with folks changing the permissions on /dev/pmu manually, and

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device error in Gnome

2004-11-05 Thread Michael Schmitz
~Do any of you with more history with Gnome have some info on the proper way to handle the /dev/pmu error when Gnome starts up? I have The proper way to handle this is to change the corresponding Gnome applet to cope with readonly access to /dev/pmu. Plain and simple. Michael

Re: Wrong permission for '/dev/pmu' device error in Gnome

2004-11-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 10:21:36AM -0500, Barry Hawkins wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 List, ~Do any of you with more history with Gnome have some info on the proper way to handle the /dev/pmu error when Gnome starts up? I have seen posts on Debian lists and