Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 09:21:00PM +0200, Nikos wrote: > >> Are the ideas in these packages xenophobic? > > > > Heh, if we were going to reject packages with xenophobic ideas, we'd > > lose most of the games. xgalaga, anyone? > > I don't agree. Xenophobia is a too unfortunate and serious subject

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Richard Braakman
(I'm still speaking from my own viewpoint here. You will find that Debian is a beast that speaks with many voices :-) On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 09:21:09PM +0200, Nikos wrote: > You are right, the Bible, or the collected works of Shakespeare, are > important pieces for culture. But they have nothin

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 09:20:44PM +0200, Nikos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: [snip] > > in this case it's the King James Bible, which is a > > very useful text for a large number of people (it is, after all, the > > most widely read book in the world). > > You're right, although this

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>> On Mon, 07 Apr 2003 21:21:15 +0200, >> Nikos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I typed "king james bible" in Google and hit "I'm feeling lucky". I > was browsing the text 1 second later... Tell me how to do that when I am answering email from a plane 32k feet up there. Assumin

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>> On Mon, 7 Apr 2003 08:50:18 -0500, >> Brooks R Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Would you prefer the Torah, the Koran, or perhaps the > Apocrypha? I'm sure we could get volunteers to package those as > well. > Hmmm? OK. If some of these packages are large, they may have

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>> On Mon, 07 Apr 2003 21:21:09 +0200, >> Nikos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > You are right, the Bible, or the collected works of Shakespeare, > are important pieces for culture. But they have nothing to do in an > operating system! Neither does fortune. Or vi. (We have emacs already)

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Gergely Nagy
Thus spoke Nikos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 2003-04-07 21:21:15: > > Because someone packaged them, and someone uses (installed) > > them. Whether it is easy to find on the web, is irrelevant, as there > > are still people who are not connected 24/7, and prefer to install a > > package, and read it off

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Monday 07 April 2003 12:21 pm, Nikos wrote: > >> Are the ideas in these packages xenophobic? > > > > Heh, if we were going to reject packages with xenophobic ideas, we'd > > lose most of the games. xgalaga, anyone? > > I don't agree. Xenophobia is a too unfortunate and serious subject to laugh

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Biella Coleman
> You are right, the Bible, or the collected works of Shakespeare, are > important pieces for culture. But they have nothing to do in an operating > system! Why to privilege one religion or political opinion? How to > distinguish "useful" (as David Nusinow said) or useless texts? It's simply

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Nikos
> I don't know about anarchism (never looked at it), but from my > point of view, bible-kjv-text is in there because it's useful > reference material. I would support packaging, e.g., the > collected works of Shakespeare for the same reason. bible-kjv > is a program for searching through bible-kj

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Nikos
> Are the ideas in these packages xenophobic? I never said that, I took an excessive example in order to make my ideas clearer. > The anarchism package isn't > really. Whether or not you think that Debian is an example of anarchism > in action is irrelevant when you consider the fact that many o

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Nikos
> Because someone packaged them, and someone uses (installed) > them. Whether it is easy to find on the web, is irrelevant, as there > are still people who are not connected 24/7, and prefer to install a > package, and read it offline. But they are very easy to retrieve and save with every web bro

Re: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Nikos
>> Are the ideas in these packages xenophobic? > > Heh, if we were going to reject packages with xenophobic ideas, we'd > lose most of the games. xgalaga, anyone? I don't agree. Xenophobia is a too unfortunate and serious subject to laugh with it: we can't say that galaga is xenophobic, because

RE: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Nikos
> Greetings, > Would you prefer the Torah, the Koran, or perhaps the Apocrypha? I'm sure > we could get volunteers to package those as well. > > Hmmm? No, that's not the main problem. As I already said, I think such texts have nothing to do in an operating system. -- Nikos

RE: Why are these packages in Debian?

2003-04-07 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
| Hello, | I don't understand why the packages anarchism, bible-kjv and | bible-kjv-text (in section doc) are Debian packages. They are no | technical documentation, they don't correspond (in my eyes) to | open source's philosophy, they can be easily found on the WWW... | Thanks for your comments a