Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-17 Thread ml
Hi, I do not want to try to decide whether the FSF oder the OSI consider such licenses as free or non-free. I also do not know whether such Clauses are covered by the DFSG. I just want to list a few Reasons why I consider such licenses as strictly non-free and would prefer Debian to consider the

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such a clause excludes certain (or more likely undefinded) person subgroups from the rights all other user get for this software. Not per default, but after a certain action of the user, but the software restricts its use to certain person subgroups.

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-17 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 10:05:29AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: The GPL does much the same. If someone distributes GPLed software without complying with section 3 (which gives you various ways in which you have to make source code available to the recipient), then they lose the right to use

Re: Debian Hardened project (question about use of the Debian trademark)

2004-09-17 Thread Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro
Hi John! El vie, 17-09-2004 a las 21:51, John Richard Moser escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: | Hi John, | | El vie, 17-09-2004 a las 19:04, John Richard Moser escribió: | |-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |Hash: SHA1

Donation to the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure

2004-09-17 Thread Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
I've authorized and asked ffis e.V. (the keeper of Debian money in Europe) to donate 1,000 EUR to the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure (FFII). FFII supports the development of public information goods based on copyright, free competition, and open standards. Some of their current

Re: Debian Hardened project (question about use of the Debian trademark)

2004-09-17 Thread Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro
Hi John, El sáb, 18-09-2004 a las 00:20, John Richard Moser escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: [...] Good, at least you understand that :) | |Yes and then the program halts and gets SIGABRT. Do you not know what a

Re: Debian Hardened project (question about use of the Debian trademark)

2004-09-17 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: [...] Good, at least you understand that :) | |Yes and then the program halts and gets SIGABRT. Do you not know what a |DoS attack is? | |[...] | | | Duty of Shame ? | OK, leaving the Fun Mode off... |

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 10:05:29AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: The GPL does much the same. If someone distributes GPLed software without complying with section 3 (which gives you various ways in which you have to make source code available to the

Re: Debian Hardened project (question about use of the Debian trademark)

2004-09-17 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 10:55:33PM +0200, Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: Yes.The `apt-get install hardened? was an example of something 100% easy to use :D Unfortunately whilst easy to use is good the idea of rebuilding the packages presented so far isn't going to be easy to setup.

Re: Debian Hardened project (question about use of the Debian trademark)

2004-09-17 Thread John Richard Moser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: | Hi, | [...] | Debian Hardened is like Debian Junior, and the rest of subprojects. | *We* must provide the best (and the easiest) way to harden Debian for | advanced users, sysadmins or just people that

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-17 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Matthew Garrett wrote: Recently, we've begun seeing more licenses that are designed to discourage patent lawsuits. They usually involve something along the lines of If you engage in patent action against the licensor, bad things will happen. Patent action against the licensor usually takes

Re: Debian Hardened project (question about use of the Debian trademark)

2004-09-17 Thread Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro
Hi John, El vie, 17-09-2004 a las 19:04, John Richard Moser escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: | Hi, | [...] | Debian Hardened is like Debian Junior, and the rest of subprojects. | *We* must provide the best (and the