Re: Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')

2005-01-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 06:07:19PM +1300, Nick Phillips wrote: > Damn. Still being misuderstood. The intention of that paragraph was not > to allow arbitrary restrictions, but rather to indicate that perhaps we > do believe that *some* (as yet unspecified, but soon to be specified) > restrictions a

Re: Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')

2005-01-25 Thread Josh Triplett
Josh Triplett wrote: > I agree that this proposition is not specific enough about the types of > conditions that we consider acceptable. I would propose the following > addition to the above text, which I believe specifies a set of > acceptable conditions that many on -legal agree with: > > """ >

Re: Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')

2005-01-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 05:35:27PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > >>Debian accepts that it may in certain circumstances be desirable > >>(or at least acceptable) for software licenses to limit certain > >>freedoms in order better to protect Free Software as a whole. A > >>current ex

Re: Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')

2005-01-25 Thread Nick Phillips
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 02:57:21AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Start with something uncontroversial and then build to: > > [...] > > > In the light of the threat that software patents pose to Free > > > Software, we believe that it is likewise acceptable for software > > > licenses to plac

Re: handling Mozilla with kid gloves [was: GUADEC report]

2005-01-25 Thread MJ Ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Your messages suggested that you'd review "after a few months" > > mainly to see who is summarising, so now seems like a good > > opportunity. Do you have other comments about whether this turned > > out like you imagined? > > Sorry for the delay in responding. I thin

Re: Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')

2005-01-25 Thread MJ Ray
Nick proposed: > > Debian accepts that it may in certain circumstances be desirable > > (or at least acceptable) for software licenses to limit certain > > freedoms in order better to protect Free Software as a whole. Start with something uncontroversial and then build to: [...] > >

Re: documentation x executable code

2005-01-25 Thread MJ Ray
"craig" wrote: > > >(b) This prevents the documents from being adapted for another > > >purpose (suchas documenting ways of funding free software). > regardless of how admirable a trait this is, it is not a requirement of the > DFSG, and never has been. [...] Has craig just walked off the map by a

Re: perguntas

2005-01-25 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
Hi debian-project, It is a Brazilian user asking for some information about Debian, I'm pointing him to Debian website and also to Brazilian Debian User Groups and maillists. Suprema Informática Ltda wrote: :: BOA NOITE :: SOU LEANDRO, SOU USUARIO DE LINUX, SEMPRE USEI AS :: DISTRIBUIÇÕES D

Re: Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')

2005-01-25 Thread Josh Triplett
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 08:42:07PM +1300, Nick Phillips wrote: >>On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 10:19:39PM +, MJ Ray wrote: >>>Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Do you really want to argue that software under licences which try to >

Re: plug-ins

2005-01-25 Thread MJ Ray
Leo Verhoeff wrote: > Aren't there fully free alternatives available that could be pre-configured? In some cases, maybe. Unfortunately, there is sometimes resistance to making the default a free competitor when the original was non-free, because there is often a lag before it meets and exceeds the

Re: plug-ins

2005-01-25 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:29:51PM +0100, Leo Verhoeff wrote: > Thanks for the reply which makes sense and the quest for 100% freedom is > indeed one of the attractions of Debian > Aren't there fully free alternatives available that could be pre-configured? mplayer -> xine (totem is a GNOME front

Re: plug-ins

2005-01-25 Thread Leo Verhoeff
Thanks for the reply which makes sense and the quest for 100% freedom is indeed one of the attractions of Debian Aren't there fully free alternatives available that could be pre-configured? > [resend to you personally, in case you are not subscribed to the list] > > On 25-01-2005 21:45, [EMAIL

Re: plug-ins

2005-01-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25-01-2005 21:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm interested in Debian since a long time and I'd rather stick to the > original. What stops me from doing so and why I always end-up with other > distros - like Mepis - is the fact that installing jav

perguntas

2005-01-25 Thread Suprema Informática Ltda
BOA NOITE   SOU LEANDRO, SOU USUARIO DE LINUX, SEMPRE USEI AS DISTRIBUIÇÕES DA RED HAT, AGORA MIGREI PARA FEDORA, MAS GOSTARIA DE SABER ALGO.   DESCULPE MINHA IGNORÂNCIA, MAS O QUE FAZ O DEBIAN UM OTIMO LINUX, POIS TENHO APENAS VISTO ELOGIOS, PERGUNTO ISTO, POIS ACREDITO QUE VOU ACABAR SENDO

plug-ins

2005-01-25 Thread virle
I'm interested in Debian since a long time and I'd rather stick to the original. What stops me from doing so and why I always end-up with other distros - like Mepis - is the fact that installing java, flashplayer and in video players like mplayer is a too frustrating matter for the average user.

Re: handling Mozilla with kid gloves [was: GUADEC report]

2005-01-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-19 15:10]: > > Last time I suggested that -legal should engage in more active > > arbitration with upstream > > Where precisely did you make this suggestion? I had the discussion about the OLS in mind in which I asked whether anyone had tried talkin

Re: handling Mozilla with kid gloves [was: GUADEC report]

2005-01-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-14 23:52]: > Posts from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to -legal in February 2004 about "debian-legal > review of licenses" suggested that "anyone can volunteer to > summarize a particular discussion, post a summary to -legal to get > the "ok" and then send it on" and that

Re: handling Mozilla with kid gloves [was: GUADEC report]

2005-01-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-12-24 02:25]: > Would you kindly let me know whether you intend to retract the above > snarky personal attack, issued in your formal capacity as Debian > Project Leader and grounded upon a questionable recollection of the > facts, given that even after n

Re: Debian Developers photo gallery (was: Re: apply to NM? ha!)

2005-01-25 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 02:44:31PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ti, 2005-01-25 kello 09:14 -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva kirjoitti: > > > It's been interesting seeing what a lot of people look like in > > > the > > > little headshots on planet.debian.org, and more would only be a > > > good

Re: Debian Developers photo gallery (was: Re: apply to NM? ha!)

2005-01-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > address, Debian login name, or IRC nick. Pictures need to be submitted > by the people in them (or approved by them) and someone probably needs > to check the validity of the foo. Pictures need to be submitted through a signed-gpg mail, which either con

Re: Debian Developers photo gallery

2005-01-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25-01-2005 12:14, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > Moving to -project, follow up there. > > Em Ter, 2005-01-25 às 09:30 +, Steve Kemp escreveu: > >> That'd be too much, but I'd love to see a photo field in the >> db.debian.org database, or some

Re: Debian Developers photo gallery (was: Re: apply to NM? ha!)

2005-01-25 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2005-01-25 kello 09:14 -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva kirjoitti: > > It's been interesting seeing what a lot of people look like in the > > little headshots on planet.debian.org, and more would only be a good > > thing. > > Yeah, I'm totally supportive of the idea, too. Maybe we could work o

Debian Developers photo gallery (was: Re: apply to NM? ha!)

2005-01-25 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Moving to -project, follow up there. Em Ter, 2005-01-25 Ãs 09:30 +, Steve Kemp escreveu: > That'd be too much, but I'd love to see a photo field in the > db.debian.org database, or some other gallery of developers. That's been proposed before -- even adding it to the /devel/people page has