Re: Bits from the ftpmasters

2005-02-17 Thread Anthony Towns
So, I'm pretty much just pointlessly repeating things I've already said at this point (who would've thought? participating in public discussion on a Debian list being an utterly pointless endeavour? astounding), so I can't see much point continuing; but I figure this first section could at leas

Re: Debian role bashing

2005-02-17 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 06:27:52PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Joel Aelwyn wrote: > >On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 11:53:47AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > >>martin f krafft wrote: > >>>Maybe we should tabulate most commonly bashed roles and see if there > >>>is a correlation with inavailability of inf

Re: Bits from the ftpmasters

2005-02-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.02.17.1402 +0100]: > I find it somewhat disturbing that the cabal even exists. Is Debian > a two-class society? Many people are by far more experienced with > the inner workings of Debian, and thus they hold positions of > influence. However, al

Re: Ftpmasters' status

2005-02-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17-02-2005 12:52, Anthony Towns wrote: > I'm really not sure why anyone thinks tacking requests onto paranoid > accusations of people being in unaccountable supersecretive cabals > that > don't share the Debian spirit is a good idea

Re: Bits from the ftpmasters

2005-02-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Anthony Towns [2005.02.17.1307 +0100]: > Can you possibly conceive there might perhaps be some other > explanation for why I'm not writing tediously long emails or > involved in heated debates about what changes to the archive > should or shouldn't happen? Sure I can; which is why I w

Re: Bits from the ftpmasters

2005-02-17 Thread Anthony Towns
martin f krafft wrote: Then I wrote an email, which, I give you that, was below the waisteline, but look at the effect: every constructive post following my initial message came from people wondering what ftpmasters are and what they are doing. So, what, exactly did those posts "construct"? Certain

Re: Ftpmasters' status

2005-02-17 Thread Anthony Towns
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 17-02-2005 06:17, Anthony Towns wrote: Then how about spending a little time thinking, first? Seriously, this isn't a debating exercise here; I'm not putting words together just to see how they sound. Why would you /possibly/ imagine retitling the thread would make any su

Re: Ftpmasters' status

2005-02-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17-02-2005 06:17, Anthony Towns wrote: > Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >> On 17-02-2005 02:43, Anthony Towns wrote: >> >>> Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> Here is a fresh non-APT non-hostile thread. Please respond... >>> >>> Dude, if a new thread was

Re: Bug#292330: Proposal: mark broken software

2005-02-17 Thread Enrico Zini
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 02:48:25PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 February 2005 09:45 am, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > You can probably work with package tags to do so after some configuration > > > to tag-base

Re: Bits from the ftpmasters

2005-02-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Anthony Towns [2005.02.17.0252 +0100]: > That, eg, you can't manage to think about apt 0.6 without wanting > to move the topic to ftpmaster bashing just confirms that > assumption. I was trying to move forward in the way I would have moved forward if I had to get things done quickly;

Re: Debian role bashing

2005-02-17 Thread Anthony Towns
Joel Aelwyn wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 11:53:47AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: martin f krafft wrote: Maybe we should tabulate most commonly bashed roles and see if there is a correlation with inavailability of information? What would be the point? That would tell us nothing about causation, wh