Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Martin Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: So, we will ship a sarge release which will show porn to our kids by default ? I don't want *ANYTHING* to do with that, and if you go this way, i hereby demand that my name is removed from any file containing it on this pornographic sarge release. Err... if I have followed

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
It might be interesting for you to know that this screensaver in question is enabled by the random kde screensaver in RedHat Enterprise Linux too. I haven't seen any outcries against redhat because of it, and thus suspect the danger of bad press appearing because of this to be very limited. --

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 09:09:27AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: It might be interesting for you to know that this screensaver in question is enabled by the random kde screensaver in RedHat Enterprise Linux too. I haven't seen any outcries against redhat because of it, and thus suspect

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Sven Luther] I doubt that very many redhat entreprise users install it at home or schools though. I don't. :) Here at the University, we have a license for home users as well. But if it is so in RHEL, I am pretty sure it is so in Fedora as well. And perhaps you can believe that Fedora is

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
Sven Luther wrote: This needs to be fixed for sarge, as it will subject random underage people sitting in the same room your computer is in to random porn. I believe th= is is illegal in most countries, and we can't be allowed to let this happen. Mmmm, debian-illegal anyone? What law is that

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Martin Schulze
Tapio Lehtonen wrote: I don't understand the animosity, this definitely is a bug and should be fixed. Personally, I would even consider it grounds for postponing release of Sarge until this is fixed. Not if we don't annulate the woody release and fix it in woody as well. It's rediculous that

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 11:46:43AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10311 March 1977, Sven Luther wrote: Do we really want to be responsible for that ? I don't want to, and i suggest all distributors boycott the sarge release if this is not fixed ASAP. Oh man, cant you get a live? Even

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:38:50PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Tapio Lehtonen wrote: I don't understand the animosity, this definitely is a bug and should be fixed. Personally, I would even consider it grounds for postponing release of Sarge until this is fixed. Not if we don't

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Christian Kaenzig
On Sunday 05 June 2005 12:36, MJ Ray wrote: Sven Luther wrote: This needs to be fixed for sarge, as it will subject random underage people sitting in the same room your computer is in to random porn. I believe th= is is illegal in most countries, and we can't be allowed to let this

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Martin Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: Not if we don't annulate the woody release and fix it in woody as well. It's rediculous that a bug that is present in woody already which was released nearly three years ago, suddenly is considered a valid release blocker for sarge less than one week before it's

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 11:36:28AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Sven Luther wrote: This needs to be fixed for sarge, as it will subject random underage people sitting in the same room your computer is in to random porn. I believe th= is is illegal in most countries, and

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Garrett wrote: Mark, not everyone who criticises Debian is attempting to destroy us. Basic politeness like using someone's chosen name escapes Matthew Garrett. He's also arguing against something he made up. Cool. Basic politeness like using the

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, we will ship a sarge release which will show porn to our kids by default ? Using a non-default desktop with a non-default screensaver configuration will, under certain circumstances, potentially result in children being able to see pornography. So, uh,

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:54:11PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 11:32:55AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: My reasoning is roughly: 1. how much of a problem is WebCollage? (10% porn finds. ow) even 1 is too much in the family, school, whatever case. Depends on

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:20:08PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, we will ship a sarge release which will show porn to our kids by default ? Using a non-default desktop with a non-default screensaver configuration will, under certain

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:49:54PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Not if we don't annulate the woody release and fix it in woody as well. It's rediculous that a bug that is present in woody already which was released nearly three years ago, suddenly is considered a

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 15:20]: On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:49:54PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Not if we don't annulate the woody release and fix it in woody as well. It's rediculous that a bug that is present in woody already which was

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 10:54]: So, we will ship a sarge release which will show porn to our kids by default ? That is not true. By default, KDE is not used. And even with using KDE, by default the random screen saver is not selected. Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 03:12:55PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:54:11PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: Depends on the family. Mine doesn't even lock the porno channels on the TV AFAICR. There's nudity in quite a lot of the adverts on some channels, too. We watch who's

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett wrote: Basic politeness like using the second person when you're replying to someone? Christ. Personal messages should not be sent to lists. It's like putting a letter to me in the press or making this a Problems with MJ Ray thread. Rather irritating. I have better things to

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Sven Luther said: On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 05:47:50PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: Yeah, random underage people in this context being the children of the KDE desktop using users. Would you like your child to be subject to porn while you are away and the screensaver

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 08:20:07PM +0200, R. Armiento wrote: Since the main issue on my mind was do people feel that it is ok that this goes into the sarge release?, exactly what would have been proper procedure? How long should I have waited before bringing it to the list? I'd only have

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread R. Armiento
Andreas Barth wrote: * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 15:20]: Notice that nobody was taking this seriously, people where only saying, how it is not so important, there is an easy workaround, let's just forget about this. I can assure you, that is not true. We had some discussion

Re: Hurd drivers (was Re: Driver Authoring????)

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Banck
(dropping -user, adding -hurd) On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 05:21:28PM -0400, Marty wrote: Might want to lookup the Linux Kernel Hacker's Guide, too. Alternatively, you could just make it for HURD, instead ;) Funny you should mention it. I've been seriously considering writing or porting a

Re: how to request a DNS update

2005-06-05 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 11:16:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not received any suggestions about this, the debian-admins have not answered my (or Joy's) mails and the CNAME is still wrong. My original request is dated April 12. Update: no updates. Perhaps

Re: Hurd drivers (was Re: Driver Authoring????)

2005-06-05 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
You'd be everyone's hero, however, most people who tried that lost their sanity down the road. Nobody has ever tried porting Linux 2.0 driver to Mach to my knowledge. Anyway, the current drivers being in use are not only 2.0 drivers, they are a mixture of lots of versions. (#hug or