Re: Why Debian Core Consortium ? Why not UserLinux? Why not Debian?

2005-08-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess something like 2%-5% of the developer body as a whole is=20 involved in the DCC; I wouldn't like to hazard a guess at what=20 proportion of Debian's extended userbase use distros involved in it) For it to be

Re: Debian Core Consortium

2005-08-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
Ian Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re the organization formerly known as the Debian Core Consortium: No need. We won't use the word Debian in the name--we'll call ourselves the DCC Alliance, where DCC stands for Debian Common Core. The comments on

Re: Pledge To Killfile a person

2005-08-12 Thread Horst Lederhosen
There's no need for any platonic ideal of justified speech. Just count the number of people who like your style versus the number of people who are pissed off by it and adjust accordingly. I reject this notion that communication is a popularity contest. Unfortunalty many people have

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:32:16PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 06:14:51PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 10:19:32AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: You're a smart guy Andrew (definitely smarter than me) Now half a dozen people are going to

Re: Pledge To Killfile a person

2005-08-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 02:13:21PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/06/msg01598.html Looks like a perfectly justified response to me. I don't see how that could be classified as 'provocation' or 'troll', because in no sense did it encourage more

Re: Pledge To Killfile a person

2005-08-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 02:40:52PM +0300, Horst Lederhosen wrote: There's no need for any platonic ideal of justified speech. Just count the number of people who like your style versus the number of people who are pissed off by it and adjust accordingly. I reject this notion that

Re: Pledge To Killfile a person

2005-08-12 Thread Michael Poole
Andrew Suffield writes: So your claim is that you can never object to people for working against consensus because doing so would be working against consensus. Well, that appears to deny you from being allowed to make that point, so I think your argument is self-defeating. I have no

Re: Pledge To Killfile a person

2005-08-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 11:43:16AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: Your approach seemed much more likely to annoy and mislead people than to help identify where they agree or disagree. I disagree, and you have done nothing to show otherwise. But I give up. That says it all really. I've rebutted

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:09:16PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: My response is simply this: it's lies. I challenge anybody who thinks otherwise to present evidence. So far (three days) we've had one person try, and give up after I explained every case. I think that says a lot for the accuracy

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-12 Thread Michael Poole
Andrew Suffield writes: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:09:16PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: My response is simply this: it's lies. I challenge anybody who thinks otherwise to present evidence. So far (three days) we've had one person try, and give up after I explained every case. I think that

Please stop the Andrew Suffield spam

2005-08-12 Thread Mikael Djurfeldt
For how long do we have to continue to wade through this flood of emails regarding the terrible state of heart of Andrew Suffield? What is the ultimate purpose of this discussion? Do you think Jens Schmalzing would have approved? Mikael D. stats.gif Description: GIF image

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 04:32:52PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: Andrew Suffield writes: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:09:16PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: My response is simply this: it's lies. I challenge anybody who thinks otherwise to present evidence. So far (three days) we've had

Por fin una empresa para ganar dinero de verdad - Publicidad

2005-08-12 Thread informativo
La primera semana de PRE-LANZAMIENTO HA SIDO UN ÉXITO ROTUNDO. Tenemos altas de afiliados de los 24 países donde operará la empresa. Hemos recibido miles de correos interesandose en el programa. Ahora es un momento único para coger una posición EXCELENTE en la empresa, NO LO DEJES PARA MAÑANA,

Re: Please stop the Andrew Suffield spam

2005-08-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 12:10:07AM +0200, Mikael Djurfeldt wrote: For how long do we have to continue to wade through this flood of emails regarding the terrible state of heart of Andrew Suffield? Until people stop making accusations. What is the ultimate purpose of this discussion? I think

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-12 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 04:32:52PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: Andrew Suffield writes: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:09:16PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: My response is simply this: it's lies. I challenge anybody who thinks otherwise to present evidence. So far (three days) we've had one person

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-12 Thread Michael Poole
Anibal Monsalve Salazar writes: On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 04:32:52PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: Andrew Suffield writes: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:09:16PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: My response is simply this: it's lies. I challenge anybody who thinks otherwise to present evidence. So far

Re: Please stop the Andrew Suffield spam

2005-08-12 Thread John Hasler
Eldon Koyle writes: I'll agree that the pledge to killfile you doesn't seem like the best solution... This is the first I've heard of it. Not only is it not the best solution, it's appalling. Andrew has been in my killfile for years, but he's coming out now. -- John Hasler -- To