Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Ian Jackson] > Running the upstream test suite in debian/rules usually isn't the > answer to packaging mistakes, library mismanglements, and the like. I have an idea. What if we had a script that ran dpkg-buildpackage and then immediately ran lintian and linda if available, to look for common p

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 12:23:49PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > (Note: sorry about my earlier header mixup. This thread is on the > wrong list so I'm crossposting this reply to -project and -policy and > have set Reply-To to point to -policy. I will also quote more of > Stefano's message than woul

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Re: Retailing

2005-11-18 Thread Joe Smith
"Peter Samuelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian indeed does not distribute the BIOS ... _but_ whoever sells a computer with Debian pre-installed most certainly does distribute the BIOS. That is what we are talking about; please try to read threads before re

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 03:35:25PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Bill Allombert writes ("Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces"): > > piuparts is a first answer to that: it allows maintainer to check that > > their package will install, remove and upgrade in a clean environnement. > > Yes, a

Re: Problemas de instalacion

2005-11-18 Thread Ana Guerrero
Ew... sorry :) I forgot remove the debian-project mail. Ana El Viernes, 18 de Noviembre de 2005 20:18, Ana Guerrero escribió: > Hola: > > Mario: > > El Viernes, 18 de Noviembre de 2005 19:02, Roberto C. Sanchez escribió: > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 02:37:52PM -0300, Mario A. Sanchez - Sistemas -

Re: Problemas de instalacion

2005-11-18 Thread Ana Guerrero
Hola: Mario: El Viernes, 18 de Noviembre de 2005 19:02, Roberto C. Sanchez escribió: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 02:37:52PM -0300, Mario A. Sanchez - Sistemas - Clínica Pergamino S.A. wrote: > > Que tal tengo la version de debian en 2 DVD. > > > > Los DVD bootean bien, pero cuando comienza la ins

Re: Problemas de instalacion

2005-11-18 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 02:37:52PM -0300, Mario A. Sanchez - Sistemas - Clínica Pergamino S.A. wrote: > Que tal tengo la version de debian en 2 DVD. > > Los DVD bootean bien, pero cuando comienza la instalación me deice que > no puede montar el cdrom y se muere la instalacion. > > Tengo un athlo

Problemas de instalacion

2005-11-18 Thread Mario A . Sanchez - Sistemas - Clínica Pergamino S . A .
Que tal tengo la version de debian en 2 DVD.   Los DVD bootean bien, pero cuando comienza la instalación me deice que no puede montar el cdrom y se muere la instalacion.   Tengo un athlon amd 64 bits con lectora de DVD, que puede ser, el mismo error me lo tira con los cdrom de instalacion   Es

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 03:35:25PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Bill Allombert writes ("Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces"): > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 12:08:25PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > maintainer didn't really test the package after installing it because > > > it was too much

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Allombert writes ("Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces"): > On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 12:08:25PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > maintainer didn't really test the package after installing it because > > it was too much trouble. If it can be standardised and automated, and > > if a way c

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 12:08:25PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > maintainer didn't really test the package after installing it because > it was too much trouble. If it can be standardised and automated, and > if a way can be found for Ubuntu to share tests with Debian, then > everyone wins. piupart

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Ian Jackson
(Note: sorry about my earlier header mixup. This thread is on the wrong list so I'm crossposting this reply to -project and -policy and have set Reply-To to point to -policy.) Sven Luther writes ("Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces"): > How will this interact with stuff like the powerp

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Ian Jackson
(Note: sorry about my earlier header mixup. This thread is on the wrong list so I'm crossposting this reply to -project and -policy and have set Reply-To to point to -policy. I will also quote more of Stefano's message than would usually be sensible, to give readers in -policy an easier time.) S

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Automated testing - design and interfaces"): > Note: that this is one of two messages on roughly the same topic. > > This message will deal solely with TECHNICAL issues. [...] Damn! I must have gotten confused while editing headers and this went to the wrong list. My apolo

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces"): > Having been involved in various unit testing packages [...] These are technical, not political, comments and should be on -policy. Could I trouble you to repost your message there ? Or would you prefer me to do so ?

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Allombert writes ("Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces"): > Currently Debian packages are tested through a lot of channel: > [stuff] Right. > Debian is an organisation which can afford a lot of decentralisation, > but where centralisation is very expensive [...] Right. > Doing th

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Ian Jackson [Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:58:26 +]: > This is a technical comment and ought to be discussed on -policy, > rather than -project. Note that you posted to the wrong list first. -- Adeodato Simó EM: dato (at) the-barrel.org | PK: DA6AE621 So, irregular/impure/non-elegant syntax

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Sven Luther writes ("Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces"): > How will this interact with stuff like the powerpc32/powerpc64 > biarch situation, where there is a series of tests which can only be > handled on powerpc64, but no powerpc32 ? I know ubuntu has only > powerpc64 machines, so it

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2005-11-18 Thread grace
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Re: Intel devices supported on Debian

2005-11-18 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Max Alt] > They have also already been submitted upstream ( kernel.org, > alsa.org , x.org) and can be downloaded at intel.com/go/linux. This sounds great. I hope Intel is able to spend the time to get the drivers accepted upstream as well. It would make it so much easier to get the correct dr