Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:59:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 07:50:23AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Anthony, ... I would like to hear your comment on the possibility to override the need for NEW for the creation of some new binary package [...] Sven, you bring

Re: Mac project?

2006-06-01 Thread dann frazier
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 04:02:50PM -0700, Jason Self wrote: On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:09:39 +0200 Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Linux kernel will work on them, the porting should be fairly straightforward. Ultimately it depends on how many Debian developers have or get access

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 08:15:42AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Now, the remaining question that has me baffled is how you reconcile the factof waiting for NEW, with the 'vitality' part of your DPL plateform. Wait, we sent off the ftp-assistant on a two-week vacation in *Mexico* to relax and gain

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 08:15:42AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:59:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 07:50:23AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Anthony, ... I would like to hear your comment on the possibility to override the need for NEW

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:21:13AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 08:15:42AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Now, the remaining question that has me baffled is how you reconcile the factof waiting for NEW, with the 'vitality' part of your DPL plateform. Wait, we sent off the

Re: Mac project?

2006-06-01 Thread Matthew Garrett
dann frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though all the pieces may be there, I don't know if the installer knows how to deal with these systems. That might be a question for debian-boot. It doesn't. There's a bunch of little problems, and I've been working on those with Colin Watson. There's

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Mike Bird
On Thursday 01 June 2006 01:31, Sven Luther wrote: [DPL's platform quothe:] And sometimes doing it fast *helps* you to do it right, by letting you try out solutions and act on the feedback -- that is, the release early, release often philosophy You see how i can see a serious contradiction

Re: Hi re: selling Debian

2006-06-01 Thread Joe Smith
Martin Zobel-Helas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Gene, You could donate to SPI [1], the legal umbrella organization for Debian. Or you could tell us from which country you are and we can tell you, if there any other organizations, which accept money for Debian

Re: Donations

2006-06-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Anthony Towns replies to Donna Orlowski: Sorry you haven't had much of a straight answer. You have four options: ... (4) Cheque or wire transfer to Debian UK, funds marked for use only with approval of DPL or authorised delegate -- for details contact Steve McIntyre [EMAIL

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:56:37AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: No, I complained about the kernel team's practice of *coupling* critical fixes with irrelevant changes that require NEW processing, just as I would Bastian said : -15 will again hit NEW. And you asked : And if there are

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 01:57:23PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Nobody asked me. I have no idea why you're presenting this in the context of my objection to the coupling of release-critical fixes to release-irrelevant changes, since that's clearly not the case here, so clearly isn't what I'm

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:56:37AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: And you asked : And if there are failures again with -15, can we expect a -16 soon that fixes them *without* needing to add new packages? Which was a request, not a complaint. My

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-01 23:10]: Which was a request, not a complaint. My complaints come from Bastian's response that no, he did not intend to focus -16 on getting 2.6.16 into testing, regardless of what bugs showed up in -15. Don't _all_ new kernel packages

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Nathanael Nerode
aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote: For those playing along at home, routing around NEW processing isn't going to happen; Apparently for no good reason, since you simply state it as a fact without providing evidence. if you're introducing new packages regularly enough that NEW processing delays are a

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 11:10:00PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:56:37AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: And you asked : And if there are failures again with -15, can we expect a -16 soon that fixes them *without*

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.01.2334 +0200]: The package name only contains 2.6.x, not the Debian -revision. So 2.6.17 will require NEW processing, but a bug-fix release for 2.6.16 won't. Small addition: unless the bug-fix requires an ABI change... -- Please do not

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-01 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 11:10:00PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: Don't _all_ new kernel packages require NEW processing because kernel packages have the entire version string embedded in the package name (for good and sound reasons)? Kernel package