On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Kevin Mark wrote:
> The important thing is to get things done, not whether its done or
> decided by one, two or more people. I'd expect instead for the DPL to
> delegate things instead of trying to do it all.
History has shown me that delegation is not an effective way to lea
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 09:02:29PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > From my perspective this idea is to take the DPL from one or two
> > people to more people. Why? To get more done.
>
> Throwing more people at a problem does not always get more
> done. Just read the Mythical man month.
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:00:00 -0500, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 09:11:00PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>>
>> My *main* current problem is that the DPL is not taking enough
>> initiatives to lead the project, to improve the project, to prepare
>> the project f
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 09:11:00PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> My *main* current problem is that the DPL is not taking enough initiatives
> to lead the project, to improve the project, to prepare the project for
> the future, etc. I don't care much about the administrivia facet of the
> role
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:46:10 +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > > Do you think it's likely for it to go on for more than one repetition?
> > I've no real idea but it might lead to a dead end. And having
> > infinite nominations/elections because there are e.g. "only" 10 and
> > not 16 persons seems to
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 07:39:12PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote:
> > > > + If there are fewer than S2 candidates
> > > > + at the end of the nomination period, then the nomination period is
> > > > + extended for two further weeks, repeatedly if necessary.
> > > > + If "None Of The Above" wins t
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 09:14:27PM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> > You are aware that most of our elections are done this way,
>
> Yes, I know.
>
> > we only use hashes in the tally sheet for leader elections?
>
> Or in other words: I 100% of the votes regarding persons, we have a
> secret
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 05:17:43PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Having a record of who voted for whom is a good default. Since we don't
> > have any typical real-world election abuses in Debian (e.g. intimidation
> > or harming of people who voted for someone you don't like), I see no
> > seri
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On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 09:53:48AM -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
Well this is due to Intel's stupidity. They created IA64 when what was
really needed was something like Amd64. Then they realized that amd64
was a better desi
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> > we only use hashes in the tally sheet for leader elections?
>
> Or in other words: I 100% of the votes regarding persons, we have a
> secret vote.
Not quite 100%. A DPL recall vote is about a person.
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* Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070213 11:54]:
> You are aware that most of our elections are done this way,
Yes, I know.
> we only use hashes in the tally sheet for leader elections?
Or in other words: I 100% of the votes regarding persons, we hav
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> >> Which kind of decision? Technical?
> >
> >The kind of decision that you expect a DPL to take: decide if a new idea
> >is worth trying, decide of some guidelines for internal teams, decision of
> >new appointments, decide how to spend our money, ...
>
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* Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070213 11:54]:
> I don't think I want anyone who fears the idea of public disagreement to
> sit two years in a committee that arbitrates social conflicts. [..]
Neither do I. That's why I want it to be possible to not vote for such a
candidate without him k
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:42:50 +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > > + If there are fewer than S2 candidates
> > > + at the end of the nomination period, then the nomination period is
> > > + extended for two further weeks, repeatedly if necessary.
> > > + If "None Of The Above" wins the election, or i
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:54:04AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> I don't think I want anyone who fears the idea of public disagreement to
> sit two years in a committee that arbitrates social conflicts.
That's turning the problem upside-down. It's not about avoiding fears
for people who are running
On 2/13/07, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> >- more momentum to the leadership: clearly a single leader is swamped with
> > administrivia and even the addition of a 2IC didn't let Anthony finish
> > his first proposal (about giving single-
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 12:07:34PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Having a record of who voted for whom is a good default. Since we don't have
> any typical real-world election abuses in Debian (e.g. intimidation or
> harming of people who voted for someone you don't like), I see no serious
> negative
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 09:53:48AM -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
> Well this is due to Intel's stupidity. They created IA64 when what was
> really needed was something like Amd64. Then they realized that amd64
> was a better design. They added it to the IA32 line under the name
> EM64T (without marketin
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If you look at the URL the original poster mentioned, I think they have
a point - exposing the cdimage.d.o directory layout like this isn't
really user friendly, we want possible users to find our distribution
without
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On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:25:09AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> No matter what's my opinion on whether fresh blood is good or bad for
> the social ctte, I doubt it would make any difference to state a rule
> like that. The committee will be elected and I seriously doubt any
> "fresh blood" DD
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:17:52AM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> > > > + The next two weeks are the polling period during which
> > > > + Developers may cast their votes. Votes in social committee elections
> > > > + are made public after the election is finished.
> > > And why shall votes
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:14:40AM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> > >> + The next two weeks are the polling period during which
> > >> + Developers may cast their votes. Votes in social committee
> > >>elections
> > >> + are made public after the election is finished.
> > > And why shall vo
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 05:08:09PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote:
> > + If there are fewer than S2 candidates
> > + at the end of the nomination period, then the nomination period is
> > + extended for two further weeks, repeatedly if necessary.
> [..]
> > + If "None Of The Above" wins the electi
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 12:44:40PM -0500, Joe Smith wrote:
> >>and I would think that social problems / discussions should be considered
> >>even more private.
> >
> >I disagree - if a problem is severe enough to get brought before soc-ctte,
> >it's out in the open already, and needs to be dealt wi
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> A social committee needs demosntrated judgement. People new,
> and inexperienced in the ways of Debian, might not really be better
> fit. [...]
Is soc-ctte about preserving the current/recent-past majority view, or
correcting the major
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 11:38:12AM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> > + At least one third of all elected candidates should have been
> > + members of the project for at least Y/2 years, where Y is the age
> > + of the Project in years. If fewer than one third of candidates meet
> > + this req
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* Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070212 12:17]:
> > > + The next two weeks are the polling period during which
> > > + Developers may cast their votes. Votes in social committee elections
> > > + are made public after the election is finished.
> > And why shall votes become public? Wha
Hi!
* Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070213 04:28]:
> >> + The next two weeks are the polling period during which
> >> + Developers may cast their votes. Votes in social committee
> >>elections
> >> + are made public after the election is finished.
> > And why shall votes become publi
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007, Steffen Joeris wrote:
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