Multi-winner elections, soc-ctte (Was: Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7)

2007-06-30 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 02:43:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > It should be relatively straight forward for Devotee to find the > winner, take the winner out of contention the next round, find the next > winner (ignoring any pairwise contests dealing with any candidate no > longer i

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-06-30 Thread Richard Hecker
Manoj Srivastava wrote: .. I have seen no discussion on how the soc ctte is going to go about ensuring that such cultural differences are noticed, or taken into account in the resolution process; or that any thought has been taken to address cultural diversity in the dispute resol

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-06-30 Thread Frank Küster
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not sure I agree that Debian as the melting pot is a viable > idea. And I find the concept of cultural hegemony (in other words, > Debian culture is dictated by the predominant subgroups, everyone else > better fall in line) mildly dis

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-06-30 Thread Frank Küster
Richard Hecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > .. >> I have seen no discussion on how the soc ctte is going to go >> about ensuring that such cultural differences are noticed, or taken >> into account in the resolution process; or that any thought has been >>

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-06-30 Thread MJ Ray
Richard Hecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Are we planning on taking into account things like cultural > > differences? Or is the decision going to be that the majority rule (or > > the dominant culture) be the governing one? > > I hope the committee will cons

Re: message from Sven Luther

2007-06-30 Thread MJ Ray
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le vendredi 29 juin 2007 à 15:51 +0200, Robert Millan a écrit : > > Sven also told me that if nobody will forward it, he will "make it by the > > slashdot way". > > We don't negociate with terrorists. That's daft. If you leave people with no outlet, t

Re: Multi-winner elections, soc-ctte (Was: Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7)

2007-06-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 10:00:47AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 02:43:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > It should be relatively straight forward for Devotee to find the > > winner, take the winner out of contention the next round, find the next > >

Re: Multi-winner elections, soc-ctte

2007-06-30 Thread Frank Küster
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whether A is "free software" and B is "our users" or vice-versa is left as > an exercise for the reader. ;) Other plausible scenarios might involve > soc-ctte candidates promoting "freedom of speech" versus "improving > signal:noise". Or "melting pot to

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-06-30 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: In other words, we share a common technical "culture". This is not the case for social culture of the community; and this distinction would tend to make a difference, in my opinion. Well, we discussed it in private at DebConf (when I lost my

Re: Multi-winner elections, soc-ctte

2007-06-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:16:40 +0100, Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 10:00:47AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 02:43:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > It should be relatively straight forward for Devotee to >> >

Re: Ban on svenl established.

2007-06-30 Thread Filipus Klutiero
> I hope we can lift this ban in a few days, when the involved people > have calmed down. This was "a few days" ago, and there are hints that the ban is problematic, so I recommend to either lift the ban, renew the ban with a more convincing reasoning than the high number of mails sent or downgra

Re: soc-ctte discussion at DebConf7

2007-06-30 Thread MJ Ray
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > So we have the choice to do either nothing against social problems in > Debian or just give a soc-ctte a chance to try [...] That's a false dilemma. For example, I suggested letting email lists (suffering most badly ATM) promote their own admins in