Re: Fw: Debian and non-free

2008-09-18 Thread Raphael Hertzog
I was frightened by your message until I realized that it was not your message but one of Sven… please don't forward messages that you don't endorse (in particular when it contains wrong claims). debian-multimedia.org is not maintained by debian, it is for patent encumbered stuff, liable of a

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-18 Thread Joey Schulze
David Paleino wrote: I was frightened by your message until I realized that it was not your message but one of Sven??? please don't forward messages that you don't endorse (in particular when it contains wrong claims). Ok, sorry for that :) However, I still believe that censorship is a

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-18 Thread Clint Adams
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 03:10:20PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: non-free programs documents firmware art-work games I like it, except for the hyphen. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 09:21:42AM +0900, Charles Plessy

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-18 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:53:48 +, Clint Adams wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 09:21:42AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: How about Debtags? You can't include/exclude things from your sources.list based on debtags. That could be a margin of improvement to apt-get (and aptitude, and

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-18 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:59:54 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: The listmaster said, when i asked them to lift the ban on debian-vote for the DPL electoral campaign, arguing that the electoral campaign is an exercice in democracy, and thus anyone should be allowed to ask the candidates questions. To

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-18 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: I think that dilutes the message that those packages are non-free, and reduces pressure on the authors to release the documentation under a free license. main non-free programs documents firmware

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-18 Thread MJ Ray
John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this idea, but without mentioning FSF directly. More entities than just the FSF use the GNU FDL for licensing. I agree. The FSF also have no free document definition or similar and I believe their position on documents is a convenience

Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)

2008-09-18 Thread MJ Ray
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] My understanding of RMS's position is that he would like Debian to follow something like the rule that the FSF has about not linking to any non-free software from their sites, [...] That rule is a myth. Their campaign sites like

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-18 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11512 March 1977, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: I think that dilutes the message that those packages are non-free, and reduces pressure on the authors to release the documentation under a free license. main non-free programs documents

Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)

2008-09-18 Thread Russ Allbery
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] My understanding of RMS's position is that he would like Debian to follow something like the rule that the FSF has about not linking to any non-free software from their sites, [...] That rule is a myth. It most

giving hardware

2008-09-18 Thread Hervé Bouy
Hi, I have some old AMD Athlon MP processors (1400, 1500 and 1900MHz) and PC2100 DDR RAM sticks that I do not use anymore but that work great and could be useful to build a server or just for testing. Is Debian interested in such hardware ? If yes, how can I send it to your organization?

Re: giving hardware

2008-09-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Hervé Bouy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Debian interested in such hardware ? If yes, how can I send it to your organization? Am happy to pay the fees. That'll be a little contribution to a project I like a lot and use everyday. Please check the donations page