Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-31 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 31 July 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: I don't believe the kind of coarse synchronization that's been proposed for the releases would make Debian-Ubuntu crossgrades significantly easier. Most of the local changes that Ubuntu has today would still apply, and there are rebuilt binaries

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Ana Guerrero wrote: Hi, Agnieszka Czajkowska has presented this morning at DebConf a very nice redesign proposal off the Debian logo and the Debian website. She has been working on this all the last year as part of her master thesis in Design. You can take a look at her presentation

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:09:40PM +0200, Meike Reichle wrote: * I really want to have a concurrent design on the *.debian.org resources (webpages, packages, bugs, wiki, lists, ...) optimally even a slightly different one for all the *.debian.net stuff. Having a design that can even be taken

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino
2009/7/29 Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org: What do you think? :D On the posters: I find some of them nice but would not use some of them to advertise the project. On the website design: I would prefer if Kalle's was implemented as it has been 'hatching' for quite a long time already and has

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30-07-2009 07:52, Mark Brown wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:19:51AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: The new simplified swirl looks cleaner, and it would be nice to move to a free-er font. The example changes to the website made it look

Freezing times: [Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion]

2009-07-31 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Luk Claes wrote: time-based freezes == For the squeeze release (and future releases), we are considering a time-based freeze, meaning that the freeze will happen at a predictable and predetermined time with the release happening at a later time once the release requirements are

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Werner Baumann
I'm using Debian for about ten years now and I use it because Debian is different. While I appreciate the intention to position Debian better I am concerned about the general direction, I am missing what I think the most important values of Debian. a modern look, a modern operating System

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:40:41AM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: On 30-07-2009 07:52, Mark Brown wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:19:51AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: The new simplified swirl looks cleaner, and it would be nice to move to a free-er font. The example

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Steffen Moeller
Hello, Werner Baumann wrote: I'm using Debian for about ten years now and I use it because Debian is different. While I appreciate the intention to position Debian better I am concerned about the general direction, I am missing what I think the most important values of Debian. +1 our web

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-31 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-07-29, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: So the developers are then within their rights to ignore the short first freeze, and work to release whenever the packages are really ready. Uh, that's what a subset of them always did, no? Like starting transitions during

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 31. 07. 2009 12:51:04 je Werner Baumann napisal(a): I'm using Debian for about ten years now and I use it because Debian is different. While I appreciate the intention to position Debian better I am concerned about the general direction, I am missing what I think the most important

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Klistvud wrote: In my view, Debian is far less about image and far more about substance than any competing product (or any product in general, for that matter). Not that I don't agree with that, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't care about our image at all. We can improve the distribution and

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:18:28PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Klistvud wrote: In my view, Debian is far less about image and far more about substance than any competing product (or any product in general, for that matter). Not that I don't agree with that, but it doesn't mean

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-31 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-07-30, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: You seem to have been operating under a misconception that the *majority* of packages in Ubuntu have been touched wrt Debian. They have not - the vast majority of packages in Ubuntu are unmodified Debian packages, as shown by the graphs

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Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-31 Thread Werner Baumann
There seem to be two quite different models about how synchronisation of Debian and Ubuntu LTS is intended to work. I believe it would be very helpful to know if there is any agreement with Ubuntu about this. The two models as I can see them from the discussion so far: Model 1: Debian freezes in

Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-31 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:51:04PM +0200, Werner Baumann wrote: Some examples from debian_redesign and why I'm worried: deb_redesign-talk7.jpg shows a proposal for the Debian home page. It starts with what is debian? and ends with all of it free. (in bold). At the moment at

Re: Debian 5.0.1

2009-07-31 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:09:33AM -0500, gene wrote: Hi: I will make this short and to the point. I like Debian 5.0.1. It does not have any wireless configuration capability only network card recognition. Does Debian plan to incorporate wireless USB Adapter configuration in future