Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:21 AM, dE . wrote: > Hi. > > I was wondering about the 2 year release cycle of Debian and it's > adaptability on the Desktops. If you want something with a faster release cycle, there is always testing, which is updated four times a day. If you want something slightly mo

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread Steffen Möller
On 01/01/2012 07:28 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > "dE ." writes: > >> http://stats.wikimedia.org/archive/squid_reports/2011-10/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm > >> You might have 60% usage of Debian but for the world it's 0.02%. > > I've never been fond of putting too much weight on this sort of >

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Well put Russ!!! Relative percentage is not that important as long as absolute number is positive, which means that fun goes on and our efforts are of benefit ;) And depending on the audience (field of endeavor, habbits etc) statistics might vary [e.g. 1] ;-) [1] http://neuro.debian.net/blog/201

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread Russ Allbery
"dE ." writes: > http://stats.wikimedia.org/archive/squid_reports/2011-10/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm > You might have 60% usage of Debian but for the world it's 0.02%. I've never been fond of putting too much weight on this sort of statistic. One of the delightful things about Debian is t

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread Muammar El Khatib
Hi, On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 15:16, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 01 janvier 2012 à 11:51 +0530, dE . a écrit : >> Further, Desktop systems dont require that much of stability and >> reliability and even security many times. > > This is the sentence with the highest bullshit density in you

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread dE .
On 01/01/12 22:05, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 01 janvier 2012 à 16:19 +0530, dE . a écrit : This is bullshit. Desktop systems don’t have specific release cycle needs. Also note that the most popular desktop operating system uses a release cycle of 3 years, not 1 year. You might not hav

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 01 janvier 2012 à 16:19 +0530, dE . a écrit : > > This is bullshit. Desktop systems don’t have specific release cycle > > needs. Also note that the most popular desktop operating system uses a > > release cycle of 3 years, not 1 year. > > You might not have known, but the LTS release

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread dE .
On 01/01/12 21:33, Zlatan Todoric wrote: dE, I suggest you to look into Debian CUT project. I believe thats suits your needs if you don't like mixing branches. On the other side - Debian is giant and complex distribution so there must be all branches and a aprox.2 yr release cycle. Zlatan On 1/

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread dE .
On 01/01/12 20:04, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 11:51 +0530, dE . wrote: I was wondering about the 2 year release cycle of Debian and it's adaptability on the Desktops. You have to admit that Debian is not used used much on the Desktops -- Really? Of the five systems in my hou

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread dE .
On 01/01/12 19:46, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 01 janvier 2012 à 11:51 +0530, dE . a écrit : I was wondering about the 2 year release cycle of Debian and it's adaptability on the Desktops. This is bullshit. Desktop systems don’t have specific release cycle needs. Also note that the most

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread dE .
On 01/01/12 18:12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012, dE . wrote: I was wondering about the 2 year release cycle of Debian and it's adaptability on the Desktops. We cannot do 1 year, it is not enough time to get hard things done (remember: Debian is _very large_), and still

Re: News: Spanish's Extermadura abandoning LinEx, but maybe adopting Debian

2012-01-01 Thread José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez
2012/1/1 Ana Guerrero : > On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 12:09:33PM +, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> (I post it in debian-project because I think that it has a broad impact. >> Please move it to other list or ignore if not appropriate.) >> >> Just read this morning these news from

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 11:51 +0530, dE . wrote: > I was wondering about the 2 year release cycle of Debian and it's > adaptability on the Desktops. > > You have to admit that Debian is not used used much on the Desktops -- Really? Of the five systems in my household which could count as desktop

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 01 janvier 2012 à 11:51 +0530, dE . a écrit : > I was wondering about the 2 year release cycle of Debian and it's > adaptability on the Desktops. This is bullshit. Desktop systems don’t have specific release cycle needs. Also note that the most popular desktop operating system uses a

Re: News: Spanish's Extermadura abandoning LinEx, but maybe adopting Debian

2012-01-01 Thread MForestier
Hi, Also in Spain (Madrid): Primeras jornadas de Software Libre y Anarquismo organizadas por la CNT de Espana: http://cnt.es/noticias/breve-cronica-de-las-jornadas-software-libre-y-anarquismo.html .-. .' '. *

Re: News: Spanish's Extermadura abandoning LinEx, but maybe adopting Debian

2012-01-01 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 12:09:33PM +, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: > Hi, > > (I post it in debian-project because I think that it has a broad impact. > Please move it to other list or ignore if not appropriate.) > > Just read this morning these news from a Spanish newspaper (spanish

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012, dE . wrote: > I was wondering about the 2 year release cycle of Debian and it's > adaptability on the Desktops. We cannot do 1 year, it is not enough time to get hard things done (remember: Debian is _very large_), and still freeze for enough time to get things right. 1.5 yea

News: Spanish's Extermadura abandoning LinEx, but maybe adopting Debian

2012-01-01 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
Hi, (I post it in debian-project because I think that it has a broad impact. Please move it to other list or ignore if not appropriate.) Just read this morning these news from a Spanish newspaper (spanish only, sorry). Maybe other people know about english versions, or some insider from the

1 year release good enough.

2012-01-01 Thread dE .
Hi. I was wondering about the 2 year release cycle of Debian and it's adaptability on the Desktops. You have to admit that Debian is not used used much on the Desktops -- it appears to be more popular for servers; and the 2 year release cycle is good for servers; increasing the release cycle