Le Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 02:28:58PM +0100, Francesca Ciceri a écrit :
>
> A diversity statement is a document expliciting something really
> important: that everyone (no matter of gender identity or expression,
> race, ethnicity, size, nationality, sexual orientation, ability level,
> neurotype, re
On 03/23/12 15:28, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
So, I wrote a draft - mainly based on the one [4] created for Ubuntu
by Matt Zimmerman with the help of Mary Gardiner, Valerie Aurora
and Benjamin Mako Hill - and I'd like to propose it to the DPL to be
official published.
Thanks for doing this.
Howev
Russ Allbery writes:
> You can't have an open and welcoming environment if you're open to
> people who work to make the environment non-welcoming to others. It
> is, like most things in life, a balance.
Yes. This is why I'm troubled by the blanket welcome to opinions, like
political opinions and
Ben Finney writes:
> That gets to another troubling part of the draft: Are there not some
> political opinions, even some religions, that we should discriminate
> against as being detrimental to the goal of a universal operating
> system?
Meh. Yes, sort of, I guess, but pretty much everyone els
Francesca Ciceri writes:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 02:56:21PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I think we should make it clear that our aim is that participation
> > in the development of Debian should be equally open to all,
> > discriminating only on the basis of people's ability and the quality
>
gregor herrmann writes:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:38:39 +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
>
> > I can think of another thing that we care about, which I don't see
> > mentioned here: "We expect people to be constructive members of the
> > community."
>
> Agreed.
>
> And I think we are also not open to peo
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:17:42 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > And I think we are also not open to people who don't share these
> > values, e.g. people with a racist, sexist, ... behaviour.
> While I certainly agree, I think it's best to leave the latter implicit in
> the statement of what we *do* ac
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:25:41 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> >> And I think we are also not open to people who don't share these
> >> values, e.g. people with a racist, sexist, ... behaviour.
> > Why?
> You can't have an open and welcoming environment if you're open to people
> who work to make the e
Jakub Wilk writes:
> * gregor herrmann , 2012-03-23, 21:07:
>> And I think we are also not open to people who don't share these
>> values, e.g. people with a racist, sexist, ... behaviour.
> Why?
You can't have an open and welcoming environment if you're open to people
who work to make the envi
Joerg Jaspert writes:
> On 12794 March 1977, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
>> a recent discussion [1] on Debian Women mailing list made me realize
>> that the Debian Project, the *Universal* Operating System, doesn't have
>> a diversity statement [2].
> Why do we need such a statement? Are we doing so
* gregor herrmann , 2012-03-23, 21:07:
And I think we are also not open to people who don't share these
values, e.g. people with a racist, sexist, ... behaviour.
Why?
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gregor herrmann writes:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:38:39 +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
>> I can think of another thing that we care about, which I don't see
>> mentioned here: "We expect people to be constructive members of the
>> community."
> Agreed.
> And I think we are also not open to people who
On 12794 March 1977, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
> a recent discussion [1] on Debian Women mailing list made me realize that
> the Debian Project, the *Universal* Operating System, doesn't have a
> diversity statement [2].
Why do we need such a statement? Are we doing something better or worse
with/w
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:38:39 +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
> I can think of another thing that we care about, which I don't see
> mentioned here: "We expect people to be constructive members of the
> community."
Agreed.
And I think we are also not open to people who don't share these
values, e.g. pe
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 02:28:58PM +0100, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
> But I'd also like to have some inputs from you all, on it.
Since one of my responsibilities in Debian is to actually discriminate
people, I feel like I should contribute :)
I like your idea. Such a statement is IMO a direct cons
Ian Jackson writes:
> There are other kinds of ability besides technical ability. All of
> those useful activities you mentioned depend on the ability of the
> people doing them. And it is right and proper that when we choose with
> whom we do these things, we should discriminate on the basis o
Francesca Ciceri writes ("Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project"):
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 02:56:21PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I think we should make it clear that our aim is that participation in
> > the development of Debian should be equally open to all,
> > discriminating only o
Francesca Ciceri writes ("Diversity statement for the Debian Project"):
> So, I wrote a draft - mainly based on the one [4] created for Ubuntu
> by Matt Zimmerman with the help of Mary Gardiner, Valerie Aurora
> and Benjamin Mako Hill - and I'd like to propose it to the DPL to be
> official publis
Jakub Wilk writes:
> * Francesca Ciceri , 2012-03-23, 14:28:
>> Although this list cannot be exhaustive, we explicitly honour diversity
>> in age, culture, ethnicity, genotype, gender identity or expression,
>> language, national origin, neurotype, phenotype, political beliefs,
>> profession, rac
Hi Ian,
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 02:56:21PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Francesca Ciceri writes ("Diversity statement for the Debian Project"):
> ...
> > Although this list cannot be exhaustive, we explicitly honour diversity
> > in age, culture, ethnicity, genotype, gender identity or expression,
* Francesca Ciceri , 2012-03-23, 14:28:
Although this list cannot be exhaustive, we explicitly honour diversity
in age, culture, ethnicity, genotype, gender identity or expression,
language, national origin, neurotype, phenotype, political beliefs,
profession, race, religion, sexual orientation
Hi all,
a recent discussion [1] on Debian Women mailing list made me realize that
the Debian Project, the *Universal* Operating System, doesn't have a
diversity statement [2].
Yet. :)
A diversity statement is a document expliciting something really
important: that everyone (no matter of gender i
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