Martin Owens writes:
> On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 21:18 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> how Debian is "in the way"
> Debian takes code from websites with donation buttons, economic
> incentive options, kickstarter updates, support contracts, developer
> sponsorships, programs and projects of all kinds
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 21:18 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> how Debian is "in the way"
Debian takes code from websites with donation buttons, economic
incentive options, kickstarter updates, support contracts, developer
sponsorships, programs and projects of all kinds and general invitations
to parti
Martin Owens writes:
> The case was stated, it wasn't made.
Then we'll agree to disagree. But I'll point out that the status quo is
to not do this. I believe the onus is on you and others who agree with
you to be convincing, not for me to convince you.
> It's that social weight and influence
On Tue, 2013-06-18 at 04:28 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> Many DDs and DMs work as consultants or contractors. If a user wants
> to use their money as a tool for Debian development, they should hire
> one or more of these developers to work on the specific things the
> user is interested in.
Kick
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:44 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> They are not the same thing at all. The social effects
> are almost completely different.
It's not a false equivalence. Participation is not just about being a
programmer, if you can convince a programmer to get involved on your
behalf, the
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 22:31 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:03 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > site requesting user's charity
>
> You mean user's involvement. You don't want users to be invited to
> participate in Debian. Debian isn't elitist and it shouldn't care that
> the to
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Martin Owens wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:03 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> site requesting user's charity
>
> You mean user's involvement. You don't want users to be invited to
> participate in Debian. Debian isn't elitist and it shouldn't care that
> the tool
Martin Owens writes:
> On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:03 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> site requesting user's charity
> You mean user's involvement. You don't want users to be invited to
> participate in Debian. Debian isn't elitist and it shouldn't care that
> the tool being deployed is money rather t
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:03 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> site requesting user's charity
You mean user's involvement. You don't want users to be invited to
participate in Debian. Debian isn't elitist and it shouldn't care that
the tool being deployed is money rather than time.
Your argument invites
Manu Sporny dijo [Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 08:53:35PM -0400]:
> >> Thanks to everyone that has participated in the discussion thus
> >> far. :) I think there have been a number of solid concerns and
> >> issues raised, which I'm going to try and wrap into a proposal
> >> below.
> >
> > and then you
Philip Hands dijo [Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 09:47:18AM +0100]:
> Manu Sporny writes:
> ...
> That is an assumption that I happen to think is completely unfounded.
>
> IBM tested various ways of incentivising coders decades ago -- almost
> (...)
> We tried DuncTank -- I'd contend that the net amount o
Le Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:20:47PM -0400, Manu Sporny a écrit :
>
> The files are composed together to suggest where donations should go to
> the sender. They are composed in this order:
>
> 1. Upstream project's DONATE file.
> 2. Package maintainers DONATE file.
> 3. System's DONATE file.
>
> S
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