Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-09-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 04:18:22PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit : > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:46:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > I found #675435 where it was written that CC-BY-SA-2.0 was not suitable > > for Debian, and now I am confused. > > > > Could you let us know your position

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-09-13 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 04:11:45PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Sure, but if you have a program, then that is an original work. > > Slamming a new license on it creates a new original work (there is still > > creative content in it), which is based on the original "original work". > > I believe

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Bas Wijnen writes: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 03:31:19PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> The key phrase is "original," not "work." Original work generally >> means, in US copyright law, that there is some creative component or >> content that makes it copyrightable. It's the same phrase used to >>

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-09-13 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 03:31:19PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bas Wijnen writes: > > > You're talking about the definition of a "work" here, I presume? I > > don't see how that makes any difference. It doesn't say "two or more > > works"; just one is enough. > > The key phrase is "original,"

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Bas Wijnen writes: > You're talking about the definition of a "work" here, I presume? I > don't see how that makes any difference. It doesn't say "two or more > works"; just one is enough. The key phrase is "original," not "work." Original work generally means, in US copyright law, that there

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-09-13 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 01:37:36PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Paul Tagliamonte writes: > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 01:28:19PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> Er, I don't understand why you think this is significant. The work > >> formed by taking the original and putting it under a different

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Tagliamonte writes: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 01:28:19PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Er, I don't understand why you think this is significant. The work >> formed by taking the original and putting it under a different license >> is trivially a derivative work. > While it's not defined to

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-09-13 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:46:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear FTP team, > > I found #675435 where it was written that CC-BY-SA-2.0 was not suitable > for Debian, and now I am confused. > > Could you let us know your position on the possiblity to accept CC-BY-SA-2.0 > by > upgrading it t

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Tagliamonte writes: > I missed this thread until I stumbled on a bug. > 4b applies to derivative works only. Underscores mine. > / > | You may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly > | digitally perform a Derivative Work only under the terms of this > | Licens

Re: Can CC BY 2.0 be upgraded to 3.0 ?

2013-09-13 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 01:28:19PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Er, I don't understand why you think this is significant. The work formed > by taking the original and putting it under a different license is > trivially a derivative work. While it's not defined to my liking in the CC* set, it defi

Re: Report from GanetiCon 2013 in Athens

2013-09-13 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 11:38:45 +0300, vangelis mouhtsis wrote: > Hi, > I live in North Greece Thessaloniki and here we have the biggest Debian > community. > I'm wondering why was non announcement for that event at all. > Or maybe it is a natural behavor? I think you just missed it. There w

Debian infrastructure teams needing you -- yes, actually you

2013-09-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, in Debian we have some infrastructure projects which to my perception are quite important because they are: 1. directly visible for the user 2. globally needed for all packages I'm personally speaking about I18N and DebTags - may be there are more. After some observation I came to the co